Leah Stumpf
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We're actually both very jealous about this. This is the one thing that we're like, it's actually kind of heartbreaking when I watch him run. Sometimes I'll let him out of his cage and he'll run past me to Andy. And I'm like, oh my gosh. But then, you know, he'll sit with me or something and he'll kind of upset Andy. I think Andy's probably really his person.
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He gets really nervous if he gets too far away from him. If we're all walking together, he's had some breakdowns at the airport. If Andy got too far ahead, we realized last time he thinks that our roller bags are chasing Andy.
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It's 1 a.m., we land in the Kalispell parking lot. And I realized this because he's kind of shrieking. He'd done pretty well. He did great on the plane. And then Andy's walking the parking lot. And I said, I think he thinks they're chasing you. So Andy starts running and swerving as if the suitcases are getting after him.
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And he jumped out of my arms and he was like a trout in the air, just thrashing around and barking and trying to get to Andy to, I guess, help him. So the suitcases didn't get him. Any advice on training that out would be welcome from any listeners.
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The rolling, growly sound, yeah. And he does think the trash cans are chasing us, too, I realize, because they're behind us and they're making this sound. So he has to be put somewhere. So I think short answer, it's Andy. Sometimes he does sleep at our bed. He's never slept in a crate, maybe one time when Michael watched him because he was being a jerk, which was fair.
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And sometimes he'll sleep over Andy's head like a hat. Like he'll arch himself around his head on the pillow, which he's never done that with me. It's the worst, by the way. It's not a good night's sleep, but it's really cute. And I do feel like that maybe he's kind of protecting him. Maybe it's a dominant thing. Maybe he thinks he's the boss. I don't know. Yeah.
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Yeah, I don't know. It's a coin toss, maybe. It depends on the day. It depends on who has food, maybe. There is that as well.
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Oh, I saw this question. This is a really good one. Not an easy question. No, it isn't. And I grew up in a blended family. So we had step siblings and it was really difficult. Like it never quite gelled my without getting too far into it. My step siblings had lost to their mother at a pretty young age. And I don't think we're really given proper time to grieve.
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so it never quite blended you know it was always really difficult until my mom and stepdad end up splitting so i came into this knowing how challenging it could be and it was it was definitely something i was concerned about you know i've read blogs and you know kind of
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parenting forums and things like that so I kind of did some research I've talked to my aunt was a stepmom you know my mom was a stepmom so I've kind of talked to family members and the kids have two involved parents so I'm able to be kind of a bonus adult and kind of a guide on the side and not have to do too much in terms of disciplining there's been a few times
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with Julia particularly where I was home with her myself. And that was really tough because we're wanting to, you know, she's wanting to call dad to ask permission for things. And so I try to get some ground rules if that's going to happen. beforehand about what is allowed, what is not allowed. And there's definitely a disconnect. So at this point, she really needs to stay.
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She ends up having to stay with her mom or with Andy in town. It didn't work. So that was tough.
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For sure. So I luckily don't often have to have any conversations about discipline. You know, Tyler lived with us full time. So we had conversations about being a responsible and caring housemate.
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But I do think he improved. And it's a life skill to be able to live with other people and take care of your own messes. And at some point, he's going to want to live with a girlfriend or... you know, roommates and nothing is worse than a house full of teenage boys that have a common area that no one really takes care of, you know?
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So I had those conversations with him and, uh, so some type of guidance and I'm always there to listen. If, uh,
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if they want to but i've realized you know watching andy it's like the harder you push the more they go in the opposite direction as teens so you know when he and i got married they were already teens which is a really challenging age because they want all the independence and all of the responsibility but just haven't gotten the judgment yet so it is terrifying to watch their brain is not even fully formed right yeah so doing the best i can to be a listener
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a helper, a guide when needed. Two of the boys are doing jiu-jitsu now, which is so cool. You know, I've gotten to train Tyler and train with him, and now his oldest, Riley, is starting to train too, which has been a really cool thing to talk about and, you know, have in common.
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So I feel like the relationships have gone in the right direction, and I've tried to talk to them and be really honest about things if they were bothering me. But it's a difficult line to tread, and I have to leave space for both of their parents who are, again, very involved. So I try to kind of stay in that role.
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And if I've stepped out of that and been like, this would be a good idea, or obviously you should just take this away, it usually goes really poorly. It's easy to look at it from the outside and be like, this is a simple solution, but they're humans and they're figuring things out. And it's, you know, he knows them much better than I do at the end of the day. So I have to defer.
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I have a few students that do that. I mean, I have a female brown belt that does that and has since she was a teen. And she's like, it saves time.
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I hope he does. Power move. Yeah. He will get some. Oh, he 100% will wear it.
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Yeah, he's getting into it. And I think it's awesome. And he is right. I've watched other people do that. They just throw on their winter boots and just say, well, see you later, coach. And they just walk out in their uniform.
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It's not a pride thing. It's an efficiency thing for them.
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Think of that over the span of the year. Ten minutes of practice. It's worth it. Yeah. I don't know. Hours back. They're getting hours back. I guess.
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We start kids at our gym as young as three or even two and a half if they're potty trained. They do a 45-minute class. I've seen other gyms where they have a half-hour class or they have a parent-child class where the parent can go in, and that's a one-to-one ratio. That's very smart. I could see that going well. We have a new instructor. She runs a preschool as well. She's excellent.
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She just took over Travis's three- and four-year-old class. They had a code yellow. It's a tough class. So they're just still so little.
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This was to the point where another kid slipped and fell. Yeah. And like laid out. Share it. Yeah, cool. So it was a... Kind of traumatic for more than one. Child, it was kind of a, that is not normal. This is something that does not happen very often. They have to be bathroom independent or potty trained to do the class. So it's rare.
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But every once in a while, they just kind of get focused on what they're doing. And just urine down their leg. Yeah. So that one was kind of a bigger one. Sometimes it'll be just kind of a little bit. But yeah, so it's, that is when we start them. And they do a lot of body awareness, a lot of coordination work.
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Socialization, starting to cooperate, starting to actually think of other people, which really they don't do that till after teen years, but we start trying to get them to think about empathy and other people's needs or concerns. At two and a half? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Not that they can fully do it.
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I mean, their brains aren't quite there yet, but we have them, especially if they're working toward a common goal in a game or as a class, you tell them, hey, we're going to miss game time if we don't get through warmups. Like, oh, okay, we better, hey, you straighten up. You know, they'll kind of look at their teammates and be like, we got to get it together, guys.
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They remember a lot and there are certain positions that they, they can do really well. They remember more than you think they're sponges at that age. So they come into my five and six year old class already having a pretty good base and, and I would say much better core strength than a lot of kids their age.
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Uh, so we kind of help them step through those developmental milestones that they would normally hit, but we're focusing on that and adding that we have a life skill component to the program as well. So they're talking about things like this month, the life skills leadership. So they have a little story. They talk about the word, the idea they think about it.
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Can all of them say that word or know what it means at the end of the month? Maybe not in that class, but the five and six year olds, I would say yes.
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uh if you have kids that are a little older you know i think anything under nine you can kind of choose activities for them much older than that they start to get some preferences of their own they've been around a little bit they've seen sports and gym what their friends play what they get to expose to on tv but i think under that parents just need to pick some activities they think are going to be helpful in building resilience frustration tolerance socialization i think jujitsu is great for that
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Well, let's I'll finish Michael's question first. They asked what can make the kids more comfortable. Having a friend in the class is certainly helpful. If you have a kid that's really shy, they can also I've had kids watch class on the side.
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So just getting them dressed, having them sit on the side with their parents, sometimes for two weeks before they're ready to step on the mat or maybe they just do warm ups and come back off. But they have to know they're not going to be forced to.
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And if it's they need to build a relationship with the coach and the students so they feel like they have a helper, like they have an advocate there and that eventually their parents should be able to leave the room. The three and four year old class is in a back room so the parents can watch on a closed circuit TV. So that helps. So there's a little parent separation.
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Not that they don't have to go back there sometimes, but. It's helpful to have that. In terms of kids trailing off, that usually happens around teen years where they just socially, they're growing their friend group. And if they get a girlfriend or boyfriend, that can be the real kiss of death. Lose some kids that way.
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They're just very busy. Oh man. Yeah. Don't even go there. Yeah. I mean, it certainly happened. It's stressful for everyone involved, but you know, so that can be part of it. They're just, they're applying to college. They're doing extracurriculars. You know, I have some kids now that they're playing two sports.
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So it's like the season in between that they'll do jujitsu, you know, or they'll do jujitsu in the summer, but around their job that they have and around their, clubs and their other skill building and their internships, you know, so they just get really busy. Some of them come back if they stay in the area and they go to community college or they get a job.
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I've had kids go to college and find it again in college and come back, you know, train at a different gym or we have gyms in, uh, Bozeman and Missoula where there's universities. So there's a big community there. You know, Tyler is out in Bozeman and has access to the gym out there in that community.
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I don't. At teen years, they don't want to be told to do anything. So if I have a teen, especially if they've been in the program for a while and they tell me, I just don't want to do this anymore. They've done it enough where they understand what it is. They're losing interest. If you force them to stay in that class, they can ruin the culture of the class.
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You know, I've had a few kids like that lately and they kind of self-selected out. But I had a conversation with them. We sat down and looked, said, let's look at the end of your membership. I'm going to call your mom and let's talk about what are you going to do instead? I never mind if they leave, but I want them to do something physical where they have that social interaction.
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And again, they're building resilience. The kids that quit younger, I find often have really low frustration tolerance and their parents are enabling that rather than pushing them through. So I would say at our gym anyway, it's much less likely that I have a parent that's pushing their kid really hard competitively. That's super rare, actually.
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I have a couple kids that are blending wrestling seasons with jujitsu, but the kid's usually pretty into it at that point. Again, it's about teen years where they might get kind of burnt out. They're like, I just kind of don't want to do this every day anymore, which they've done. They put a lot of time and effort into it. So that's OK. And they may come back.
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Uh, but the kids who, again, kind of quit before they get to really start before they even get to spar or before they get to really understand what jujitsu is, are the ones that they're getting mad in games. I didn't get picked as it today. You know, I had a conversation with a parent recently and. If he's been getting upset, he just leaves the mat.
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I was like, you've got to give him a chance to work through that and at least sit on the side, even if we can't return to class. And he's very young, so lots of room for growth.
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So zero interest in that, like less than zero. If there was a number smaller than zero, like negative 100 interest in that. Why? I don't like the feeling of falling. The idea of it is terrifying. It doesn't feel like falling. I've heard that, well, the first few feet for sure.
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The aircraft is going- Until you hit terminal velocity, there's gotta be some feeling of falling.
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If you do a- Who jumps out of a hot air balloon first? You're gonna jump out of a plane.
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If you talk to Adam Singer, you might get sucked right into the propeller.
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No. That's such a good podcast. If you haven't listened to the Singer Brothers.
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They didn't know you were recording, but yeah. Which is fine. That was how it started, yeah.
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He was also, I think, equally scared. And he actually went through the whole thing. So I have nothing but respect for him.
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I mean, you have to sit there in the airplane knowing that you're going to jump out of it. I mean, there's a lot of anxiety around that. So I would consider doing a tandem with Andy only, and then that would probably be the end of my skydiving career. You know, Kate Riggles has some real horror stories from doing those boogies down in, I don't know where they do them, in Montana.
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Yeah. Just horror stories. I mean, one of them, I think it was her instructor, the tandem guy's first cutaway, you know, so she got to experience that. Like, no.
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Oh, she knew it happened. Cause he probably told her. No, it was, he's like, well, it looks like we're going to have to cut away. And there was a massive, massive jolt. She ended up hurting your ankle. It sounded terrible. Yeah.
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Yeah. Whereas I don't blame them jumping out of a plane.
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Yep. Could see that. Yeah. So the answer is negative, but a tandem, maybe. Yeah, I would maybe do that.
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Yeah, that doesn't bother me too much. If the whole thing stops, you just fall on the ground.
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It's got a net. Yeah. Yeah. Either way. That doesn't bother me.
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Good for you. You can teach Tyler. He's real excited about it.
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He's great under pressure. He does not get afraid. He has kind of that same deal that you have. Well, he thinks very calmly and clearly under that stress.
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Okay, I don't know if we'd go that far, but I could see him trying some acrobatics. Can you see Tyler doing that?
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Yeah, well, I don't know. Ultimate freedom, I guess. To each their own. I have no judgment of someone doing that. I just, it's just not for me.
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I wrote a blog about this actually, because I get this question so often, but the gym should look like a good cross section of the community. One of my coaches, Kane Prevost out of Portland, always used to say that. So you should see smaller people, older people, ladies, children,
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a good group of each, and you know that the smaller, weaker people are being encouraged to grow and get stronger instead of being weeded out. So if you go in and it's a bunch of 20-year-old, 200-pound dudes, you're probably going to get good, but it's going to be hard and maybe not the greatest place for a smaller, older, or female student. There's always one girl that makes it there.
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Yeah. I can link it. And, uh, proximity matters. I've seen very few families make it if the commute is more than an hour. So that's a big one, but explore all of the gyms within an hour. And the one that feels like it has the best vibe, the best community is going to matter more than, you know, the jujitsu lineage or Think about your goals. You know, that's another important thing.
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If you want your kid to compete or he's going to check on the ween. If you want your kid to compete, make sure that they have a competition team. Or if you want it to be more self-defense based, make sure that they cover that. I mean, I think every even sport jujitsu has some application to self-defense, but some gyms have more of an emphasis than others.
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And you may get frustrated if you're in a gym that's really competition based and you're like, well, I want to do MMA or I want to. you know, really work on self-defense or I'm a law enforcement officer. You can always tool your own jujitsu to what you're interested in. But if the curriculum is all based around that, the first two years can be difficult.
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So just, yeah, consider the proximity goals. And then, you know, the community piece is huge. And those three things are kind of almost equally important, I find, in keeping a student around. And so watch a class first or have the kid do a practice class. Make sure there's enough instructors to students if it's a massive class and they don't have enough helpers there.
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It's not as safe and it's difficult to learn. We have a lot of students that help us. I have teens and junior students that. are working on their coaching and I let them teach little sections of the class. They lead warmups. It's just more eyes on the mat. And I have usually some adult helpers too.
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And I try to keep it, especially for the four and five-year-olds, one instructor for every four to five kids would be a max. I do not like to go over that because they're just sometimes do crazy stuff. So you need a lot of eyes on the mat.
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Yes. Helicopter ride. Yeah. So I guess I was a little more nervous than I realized. I was kind of avoiding it unconsciously because when we actually got there, I was like, oh, I'm a little more nervous than I thought. I've only ridden in one. I was in the back.
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Yeah. So many helicopter rides. And I was at the back. One of the times I made a mistake and I was sitting backwards, that was not my favorite. But it was only, you know, maybe a 15-minute ride out to Backcountry Ski Lodge. I didn't even know if it was that long. That was quick. Out to Bald Face. Yeah, that was awesome. But really, really – it was cool.
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But, you know, we had a little training video. And I used to work for the Forest Service. And every once in a while, you know, the fire helicopters just crash. So I know that, you know. And – So I had that in mind, and then we get in this helicopter, and the whole front is glass, and it's just small compared to the other one we'd been in. So I trust you completely. The helicopter, however—
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Yeah. I mean, if I think if it was all at all manageable, you would manage it, but you know, there might be one that's not. So it was just a consideration. It was a consideration. You work that shit out.
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So anyway, it was, once I got over that and we were, we were, you know, kind of moving over the valley that we live in, it was just really cool. We got to see the ski resort and you know, the lake, we went by Whitefish Lake and all the way over Kalispell. Some of our friends in class saw you, saw us go over. Oh, did they? Yeah. So that was kind of funny, but, uh, totally different perspective.
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So cool. You know, I'm excited to maybe get to some more remote places where we could do some camping, fishing, you know, maybe even snowboarding in the future.
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Absolutely not. A little bit. No, not even, there's not even one part of me. Yeah.
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We're not doing that. No. Nope. I mean, I would do my best, I guess, but I'm not thinking that would go very well.
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No, thank you. we have like a Venn diagram of interest. There's like a tiny little crossover there. It's like sliver being alive.
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Yeah. No, it's probably for the best. I have a little bit of a hoarding tendency.
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Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's pretty neat. You feel very small, I guess.
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That's why I didn't tell you. He knows you well enough by now, yeah.
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No one needs that. Then you had a clean puke out of your helicopter. How fun is that?
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Yeah. Yep. I do think, I think he would be okay sitting with one of us. He's flown a bunch of times now and handled being right over the wing.
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Probably since you started. But you never said anything. Well, here's a secret for you. Sometimes I come home and take stuff out of the trash.
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I had done a little bit of hunting. I was always really interested in it, but I didn't have any family members or friends that were super into it. So I'd done a little bit in Alaska and more fishing up there and I really enjoyed it. And then I'd done, you know, a little bit in Maine and... Started in Montana.
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I had a couple of friends and we didn't, we didn't really, it was more just walking around in the woods. You know, we hadn't, we didn't really kill anything, but I got to go out with them. Some, some friends from the gym, some friends that I knew from Alaska that lived here and just kind of started that interest.
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Yeah, just walking around looking for animals. And it was, you know, just got me outside again. I was starting to get real focused on the gym and had kind of lost that part of my life where I used to work outside and practically live outside when I was a ranger. So I just it had kind of shifted things. So I it provided an opportunity to get outside. You have to be super focused.
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You know, you're looking for a sign. You're constantly looking for animals. So I love that part of it. You know, we've done some camping and. some camping adventures with Nelson super.
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Those were cool. I don't know. I mean, there's, I think it's always hard when you're going to do elk hunting. Like I've learned that now you can't expect it. There's no part of it. That's easy. Elk don't live in easy places. It's really challenging.
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Some of it's new stuff. It's nice. All right. I give it to people.
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Oh, if it's our guide from Utah, we're going to, we're going down in the bottom of the deepest hollow of wherever we're at. And we're going to chase that elk till we find it.
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I took the conditioning so much more seriously for our second hunting trip this year. And we went to Wyoming and I felt a lot better. So I did the elk shape, uh, protocol. And that was, I'm going to do it again because I felt a lot better. A lot of, uh, Just rucking. We're already at a pretty good altitude here, but just more uphill, more kind of CrossFit style cardio, just that short cardio.
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So when you can do a burst uphill and not feel like you're dying and just getting used to carrying weight. You know, I haven't had to knock on wood. I haven't done like a horrendous pack out yet, but I feel like it's coming at some point. It's coming. I've done some shorter ones and I know I can carry the weight. I just haven't had to do a really long one yet.
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Oh, it was absolutely incredible. Absolutely incredible. We were in a herd at one point, so I had sort of explored hunting with other people, but really gotten into it, done a bunch of trips with Andy, which is just really cool to share that with your partner. I've gotten...
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my own animals now, just a few, but that's been really rewarding to be able to then eat those later in the year, to pack it out yourself, to clean it yourself, and share that experience with friends. And it's just you have adventures. It's really cool. So I definitely love it. I've gotten more and more into it. I want to try eventually to archery hunt.
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Just how close we got to some of the animals was Really, really cool.
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And he was rifle hunting, but we were close enough where he could have archery hunted. I might have been able to hunt with an axe.
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We were just crouched down. I thought the thing was going to run us right over. And then two herds ran into each other, and we were in the middle of them just running through the woods all around us just screaming. Full elk party. Yeah, it was crazy. It sounds prehistoric. So that was just incredible. So that's just, yeah, that's a really special place.
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But even just walking around in Montana, I enjoy shed hunting. I know you don't love that quite as much. We just call it hiking. You get it. Figured out it's about five miles for every antler you find, but I love it. It's fun.
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I'll go. It's a purpose. But anyway, yeah. So I guess to truly get into it, yeah, definitely Andy got me more into it. And we worked with some guides or friends that got us on animals and gave me the opportunity to... get something and sometimes with a film crew, which was super stressful because I haven't shot a lot long distance. I did better this year with all my prep.
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I just, I should have done more physical training, like at least eight weeks before Utah. That was a huge mistake, but I won't make that again. Next time we're going, I'm going to be more ready. No, it's just, it's chasing around these guys. Everybody's like six feet tall, some kind of extreme athlete in their life. And I'm just running after everyone. Like it's just, it's ridiculous.
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It got to the point where I just had to recognize what your tracks look like to know where you went. Like they were so far ahead. I was like, well, there's...
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Huh? Dove was in Vans. Man, he bosses it up, though. He keeps up.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, we didn't have to go far, but I don't think I could have put that on my back. That thing was heavy.
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Yeah. Yep. So hoping to do more, really looking forward to that season. And again, to take it seriously, it's not a weekend warrior kind of thing. It is the jujitsu fitness does not translate whatsoever to walking uphill. I have found.
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Yeah. You've got to wait, you know, 24 hours. You can't just helicopter around and then run after the animals. What is it? 24 hours in Montana? 24 hours. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that would be cool. Same if you use a drone. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yep. So maybe. It could be a rough idea. Yeah. Some, maybe some, some more opportunities in Montana. We didn't really get to hunt Montana this past year. No.
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Yeah. Yeah. They're both such great ambassadors for, for the practice.
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Those guys prep all year for that. It's, it's, it's cool. They've, they've really been influential in getting me into the sport to really generous with their knowledge and time and gear.
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He found ways to do it. I mean, he had an elk. I don't remember. It was a deer in a canoe, so he didn't have to walk. It was cool.
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We're like, oh, his season's over. No, he managed to get some animals. It was cool. Yeah.
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Um, I do just basic barbell lifts. I've added some kind of CrossFit style hit training, uh, macros. I'm just kind of higher protein right now and a little bit lower carb. And I'm just trying to track and be really consistent right now.
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And I do want to drop a weight class for the fall, which I've been saying for a couple of years now, I'm actually, I actually did compete a couple of times this year. So, um, That was part of my goal. I may compete one more time and I really want to drop down one, which has proved to be much more of a challenge in my 40s. Very difficult. So I'm going to have to approach it differently.
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I looked at a few. Yeah, there were some funny comments.
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I used to be able to just kind of clean up my diet. The way I'm eating now, I would have been losing weight in my 20s. And now that I'm 40, it's just like... I mean, I worked, I did a pretty hard training camp leading up to these last couple comps and was eating pretty clean. Scale didn't move, not even a half a pound. I was like, you have got to be kidding me. It's so frustrating. Great on top.
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Great on top, you know, if you're on top. But I feel like I should be one more down and I would feel a little more comfortable. Yeah. something to work on, uh, but not a specific, you know, not paleo or keto or anything like that. I would say just trying to stick to whole foods, avoiding processed foods. They do do some protein powder. Uh, creatine now has been really helpful with recovery.
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And then, uh, just trying to make sure I'm getting enough protein that has also seemed to help me recover. Cause recovery is the part that is different now that I'm older and competing, but, uh, I'm really enjoying the master's division. I think it's super fun.
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Probably not as fluently. I don't know if anyone is quite there.
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I try to keep up because... I don't find myself to be sarcastic. No, not at all.
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That is true. I do find myself kind of repeating some of those phrases. And actually when Tyler was, Tyler's a real sass pot too.
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He really does. College is, man. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuckity, fuck, fuck. Every third word. He's hilarious though. So yeah, I get, some of it's from him, I think actually.
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Wow. They roast each other. They are so funny. They had me crying, laughing one night. They went on for about 20 minutes, just going at each other, their boyfriend, respective boyfriend or girlfriend at the time.
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Yes. Have you told that on here before? I don't know. It's so funny. So I think Andy told me, I once asked him, I do think he won the parent lottery. Vaughn is so awesome. And I think he was such a great dad. I think he still is. And you would have loved my mom too. Great, great grandpa. And, uh, So I said, did he ever get really mad at you? Because everyone has a point.
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And he said, well, there was this one time he flushed an orange down the toilet at his home.
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So Vaughn, being pretty handy, ripped the thing out of the...
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You told him or did he make you reach in there? Didn't he find it?
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He didn't even address it though. He wasn't, he wasn't like, what were you thinking? Or you have some kind of punishment. He's just like, we're just going to, we're just going to move on.
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Yeah, there's no, I mean, that would be more traditional, but like I said, I think he realized that it wasn't worth it.
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It's a good dad. You know what I mean? He didn't even rage out. He didn't curse you out. You didn't get grounded.
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Yeah. I mean, it is hilarious. What were you thinking?
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So that was pretty, that was a funny one. He did tell me, uh, he went out to watch Andy in part of buds. He did it a couple of times. He was there during hell week, hell week. So he was in rough shape and he said he, as was everybody else in the class, by the way, for sure. Yeah. How many were left at that point?
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I think... Our probably official going out would have been the farmhouse in Lakeside for breakfast.
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18. Yeah. So, and he was like 170 pounds, maybe 150, but six feet tall somehow. So just rail thin running by. And he said he looked so rough, you know, he was like so proud of him, but he said he looked so rough that he like threw up. He turned over and like threw up in a trash can. I'm like tearing up.
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Yeah. And the instructors were really sweet. It sounded like they would talk to him a little bit. They would.
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Yeah. Just the support though. I remember he, last Vaughn story, he showed up, you had a coach, I think a baseball coach that he told Andy, I don't know why I got mad at you. I would guess that you were mouthing off as my.
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I had a couple of stories like that too, where he just stepped up and at risk to his own career health, you know, whatever he was trying to achieve and just kind of Was like, nope.
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Yeah, I think so. Yeah. It's a tough business. Yeah.
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I'm trying to imagine this. Did he just have a giant mustache at that point?
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I may have. I don't remember if it was that day. I have had that before though. But great breakfast spot.
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Your dad knocked him down, didn't he? Yeah. What did he say to him?
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Somehow you stayed on the team, though, after that. I figured that would have been it. Yeah, I started the next day.
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Well, I mean, just the support though, the, you know, just handled it. He didn't even talk to you about it really. He's like, this is what we're going to do.
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Yeah. I laid him out just one shot or did they get in? Yeah.
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And honestly, I think you got it. I mean, he's like that. I think that's, that's awesome.
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Why do we need to do that? Why do we need to talk about dicks?
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I realize Tyler's a little like that too, maybe to his detriment. Luckily he's training some jujitsu and has done some striking because he will, he will also step up. And we kind of had that conversation with him. He got into it with a kid in the elevator and we're like, you got to be ready to back that up.
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Yeah. The guy was mouthing, just being real mean to his girlfriend. So Tyler told him what he thought and we're like, dude, you got to be ready at that point.
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Yeah. I'm glad he's playing rugby now too, which is pretty cool. God. Yeah. And Michael. So is Michael. Yes. I don't know if that's just the next iteration of jujitsu.
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I guess this may surprise people who don't know him, but I guess his kindness and empathy for others.
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He really does take care of the people around him in a big way. And he will sacrifice his own well-being, health, sleep to make sure that the people he's taking care of are okay.
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I mean, I feel like you're pretty patient too, especially with your kids. Only with people I like. Yeah.
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We've talked to, we've actually had some extensive conversations. Okay.
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Makes you a settler. It's not that much. You ever seen that? Yeah, I don't know where he got that. I think that's his own reference.
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You can see that being a Nelsonism. Yeah. So, well, just that, just, you know, not, if it doesn't feel right, that it's worth waiting and finding that right person and not necessarily tolerating being treated as less than or in a way that you don't appreciate. And that happens a lot more when you're younger. People are just not quite ready to settle down and they're dating.
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So you have, and now there's this added electronic layer where people can ghost and start something and not finish it. And it's, it's, it's a, it's a jungle.
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It's good and bad because you can meet someone with the exact same interests.
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Very true. Michael's run into that. He's been catfished a time or two.
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Hopefully it's him and Javi now. I told him he's really got to work that. If he's dog sitting, you got to walk him all over town.
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I was pretty fortunate to eventually find a jujitsu gym. You know, my first jujitsu experience was in a rec center and that was a little wild in Alaska.
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Well, something to work on, but yeah, no, that was my, that was my only advice. I think, I think until you find that person, it's worth moving on, even though it's really hard and it can be very isolating and lonely, you know, for a while. Uh, but totally worth it. And I never would have said that before meeting Andy.
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I would have, I was just like, it's statistically improbable to find your perfect match. I was very pessimistic. I was, uh, I considered myself a realist, but in retrospect, I was very pessimistic and. Maybe getting a little closed off as I got older, you know, I had been a minute. So don't give up. Don't give up. Stuck.
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Yes. So kind of a dream seminar for me personally, the one I would have wanted to go to, it's half jujitsu instruction. So I'll be teaching the jujitsu part and then half surfing lessons.
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If you want to, it's included in the cost of the camp and it's still really comparable to the other camps. It's kind of a steal. And if you use the code CLEAREDHOT, just one word, at least this next coming week, I think it'll be live. You can get a $200 discount, which makes it crazy cheap. It's like four days of jiu-jitsu and four surf sessions, hour surf sessions.
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The surf lessons are taught by an actual expert, subject matter. Nacho! Nacho Ignacio. He's a jiu-jitsu black belt, really great instructor. He runs a lot of the classes at Hero BJJ, which is a nonprofit that fully... donates all of that money from the destination seminars, like this one, to their children's program.
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So they pick up these kids that normally would not be able to do anything after school from their neighborhoods and brings them, they do jujitsu, it gives them uniforms, school supplies, you know, just that community piece again, and kind of a, an extra place outside their own home where they have support and an activity. And, uh, it's just a really, really cool program.
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No, there weren't any women and there weren't any women the first year. few years at Travis's gym either.
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So if you're thinking about doing a seminar, it's a beautiful place. Uh, great, great time to get out. Uh, it's going to be in May. So spring here is variable. You know, it's a good time. It can be kind of a windy, cold time too. So if you live in the North, um, Go down to Costa Rica, get some surfing in, get some jujitsu in. And it's just a great time. There's great food there.
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The beaches are beautiful. There's all these excursions you can do. It's really family friendly. It's very safe. So you can find the link for that on HeroBJJ.com.
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Yep. And it sounds like Andy's going to post a link to that as well as the blog and- Bring your family, bring your significant other if you want to come.
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Quite a few. We end up going there for the jujitsu seminars. I always surf as much as I can. I'm still so bad at it. It's so hard. I think it's way harder than jujitsu. I just haven't put nearly the hours in that I need to, but I love doing it. And- It gives you that same feeling of flow. It's really challenging. The area that we surf is very beginner-friendly, sandy bottom, really small waves.
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And again, the instructor is excellent. He's able to explain the pop-up better than any other coach I've worked with. And he's super patient. He'll have other instructors on board to help for those that want to come out and surf. Yeah. It's going to be fun. We're probably going to do a roll down by the beach. On the sand? Not on the sand. They'll be in the grass near the beach.
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No, they just weren't there. It just wasn't really a thing. And you rolled your first day back then. So you were sparring the very moment you came in. So... I was losing immediately, you know, but I was not getting hurt. I was being treated well. You know, I was being encouraged. It was fun. It was a good group of guys. They were all more experienced than me. They'd all had some wrestling or MMA.
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I feel like you've had enough sand and pushing people's heads underwater. Oh, no, I'm playing top. You don't feel like you'll be in the sand.
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Yep. And again, the money goes to that great cause and the, the area around it is just incredible. I mean, it's a jungle. You're seeing monkeys climbing across power lines in the street, all kinds of different tropical birds. You can go out and go deep sea fishing. You can, you know, we've toured.
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Horse rides on the beach. You could do that. I don't know if they're sad, but they're on the beach and you could do.
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They're working hard out there, yeah. And then, yeah, we've been to, we've toured a coffee plantation, cacao plantation. That was really cool.
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Yeah, done a waterfall hike. So it's just so pretty. It's a really wild place still. It's still quite rural, even though Tamarindo is definitely more of a city, more of a touristy place. They finally paved what we call the Lawless Intersection downtown. It's unfortunate. Yeah, I don't think so. It's getting more...
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uh, developed, I guess, but you can go just outside the city and then it's, there's no one, you know? And so if you rent a car, you can get out pretty easily. Uh, and then everything in town is, is pretty close. So beautiful place. We keep going back and an opportunity to do two really cool disciplines together. I mean, I love both. So.
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I mean, yeah, if we have something else to talk about, you know, looking forward to that seminar and going back to Costa Rica. And I'll be teaching in Vancouver, Washington at our gym, our Straight Blast gym there the week before, like May 5th, I believe is that seminar. So if you're in the Northwest and close by, you could come train with me there. And then if not, come down to Costa Rica.
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And Travis is my coach for straight blast gym. And then eventually I was over with Matt Thornton at Straight Blast Gym in Portland. And both of them are very encouraging of having women in the gym. It's just, it's a very tough sport and there wasn't really a great on-ramp at the time. So there weren't many of us. The first match I had with a woman was at a tournament in Helena. Well built.
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We were white belts. I think she might have been a blue belt or pretty close. I think she was even a teen. And I think I won one, lost one. No, no, I think I might have even lost both. I had her in a triangle at one point. Oh, yes, I did finish that. So I... I won the first one. I think I lost the second one and I think I lost one more after that. I don't think I won.
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You know, it was, that was my first experience and, uh, I didn't really know what to expect. I hadn't, again, I hadn't rolled with another female before, so it was easier for sure.
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Yeah. So the coaches that I worked with facilitated that. My coach, Travis's wife, was starting to get involved and she eventually became a black belt, but she was always kind of in the background. She was running the yoga side of things. And so she was really encouraging and, you know, they wanted to grow the gym. So they knew they were going to need women. They had a kids program.
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I think any gym that wants to really survive and thrive in the community includes everyone. They're not just... It's not just a bunch of dudes rolling around. There's a, there are gyms like that, that are. It's a certain flavor. Yeah. Successful. It's a, it's more of like a garage style gym and they're super fun. More like a clubhouse close knit. You gotta be real tough to be on those mats.
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A lot of times they're trying, they're more weeding people out, you know, than including everyone. Yeah. Which it shifts the culture of the gym. It's interesting. So I, you know, it was, I was encouraged. I was included. I felt protected by my training partners, not taken advantage of. I was losing all the time, but I thought it was funny.
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You know, you just have to, you have to laugh or you're going to quit, I guess. Or cry. Or cry. Yeah. Yeah. Cry in the shower.
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I think it's been a slow increase, but in a good way. Every year I compete, I see more women. So I just competed a few weeks ago in Helena, and there were a ton of women there. There were probably about 500 people at the tournament. And I would say a good...
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hundred of them were women, little girls, teens, adults, we had a women's black belt division, it was absolute absolute, it was, you know, kind of four different weight classes, age groups, and we all just combined and did matches. And that was I never imagined there'd be enough black belts in Montana for a really long time, I was the only one living here, female black belt.
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And so that was really cool. There was not a men's black belt division. So
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Not in that last tournament. Yeah, there was just the ladies threw down. And I will say a lot of those ladies did no gi too. I kind of, I was coaching and I didn't do the no gi, but a lot of them came back at like 5 p.m. and did no gi too. So it was cool.
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I think having a ladies class goes a really long way. The more women you get on the mat, I think the critical mass is about 10. And then it'll kind of start growing itself. But that first 10 is so hard to gain and maintain. I think having a ladies class is really important. Having a beginner class is huge. And then if you can get some ladies to step over, you already got women in your gym.
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I guarantee girlfriends, wives, daughters, sisters. Moms. Yep. Moms of kids and they're watching, they're in the gym, sometimes more consistently than your own members. And if you can get them to step onto the mat, grab a partner, grab another mom, grab a friend that's their size and just get out there and kind of have fun with it. So they're not rolling with guys initially.
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So it continues to grow. I remember when the brown and black, there wasn't a black belt division at world for the women. It was brown and black combined because there just weren't enough. And then suddenly one year there were black belts and then they've added weight classes and age, you know, now there's the master's division. So it's, and it's continued to grow. It's cool.
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Yeah. I don't think there's any age that's too late.
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For Vaughn, you just have to manage your expectations.
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His problem would be he would go hard. He would be throwing down.
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That's not true at all. He's still a pretty big guy and he goes to the gym probably five days a week at least. He's still pretty fit and he has that competitive spirit. So the challenge becomes, do you try to move like you did when you were 20?
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Yes, and that would be the problem. So he'd have to, the person would have to adjust their expectations and you learn that pretty quickly. It's always a potential to get injured, but if you're careful choosing your training partners, you allow yourself to recover and let go of things.
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So if you're in a bad position, you sometimes have to let go instead of letting yourself get folded in half or bent up. Or if you're in a submission, you need to tap early, not try to thrash your way out. That's when people get hurt. So I think you can it's kind of like snowboarding.
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It's like you can be dropping cliffs and doing, you know, crazy stuff in the park or you can just cruise groomers, you know, and I think you can start that later in life. So you're you just have to, I think, do it at a little bit slower.
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slower pace but it depends on the person like we've got a guy in the gym right now that's in his 40s but he's a crossfit coach part-time he wrestled and he's gnarly you know i mean he won against a bunch of much younger guys at this tournament he ran a half marathon the day before you know so it depends on what kind of shape you've kept yourself in
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He ended up finally breaking his toe, sweeping one of our guys. He picked him up. He body locked him and kicked his legs out and he broke his toe. And that was his last match.
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No, no. It was just sideways. I don't know if it caught on the mat or caught the guy's feet. He took him down. It was a beautiful takedown, but they were standing there and he's realizing it's probably not going to be possible for him to continue. So I told his teammate, I was like, that means you win. Cause he had already lost to him earlier that day. I was like, you win this one.
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You did it, yeah. I wonder if the wean will be, you can hear him in the background. He'll be fine.
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We've had people start that way and be really successful in foundations in the drilling class. They just have to be really cautious about, who they train with. There's a lady that's that age in Portland that's training now. She just got her blue belt. And then there's Dr. John over there, got his black belt. He started at 60.
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Lily, our first female black belt, started at 50, got her black belt at 60. They were active people. So I don't know if I've had someone that was truly never active that started at that age, but if you've been active and you're still moving pretty well, I think it's very possible.