Lee Cronin
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545 appearances
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first heard Dec 2023
last heard Jun 2024
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That's what a lot of people say. So the way to really get to genuine novelty, and assembly theory shows you the way, is to have different causal chains overlap. And this really resonates with the...
the time is fundamental argument and if you're bringing together a couple of objects with different initial conditions coming together when they interact the more different their histories the more novelty they generate in time going forward.
And so it could be that genuine novelty is basically about mix it up a little and the human brain is able to mix it up a little and all that stimulus comes from the environment. But all I think I'm saying is the universe is deterministic going back in time, non-deterministic going forward in time because the universe is too big in the future to contain in the present.
Therefore, these collisions of known things generate unknown things that then become part of your data set and don't appear weird. That's how we give ourselves comfort. The past looks consistent with this initial conditional hypothesis, but actually we're generating more and more novelty. And that's how it works. Simple.
But I like this whole idea of mining novelty. I think it is going to reveal why the limitations of current AI is a bit like a printing press, right? Everyone thought that when the printing press came, that writing books is going to be terrible, that you had evil spirits and all this. They were just books.
But that's what the big companies want you to think.
consequences and the way social media has had major consequences both positive and negative and so you have to kind of think about and worry about it but yeah people that fear monger you know my pet theory yeah for this you want to know yeah is i think that um a lot and maybe i'm being and i think i really do respect um you know um a lot of the people out there who are trying to have discourse about the positive future so open ai guys meta guys and all this and
What I wonder if they're trying to cover up for the fact that social media has had a pretty disastrous effect at some level. And they're just trying to say, oh yeah, we should do this. Because covering up for the fact that we have got some problems with, you know, teenagers and Instagram and Snapchat and, you know, all this stuff. And maybe they're just overreacting now.
It's like, oh yeah, sorry, we made the bubonic plate and gave it to you all and you're all dying. And oh yeah, but look at this over here. It's even worse.
Yeah, I agree. But what I worry about right now is I do care about the ethics of what we're doing. And one of the reasons why I'm so open about the things we're trying to do in the lab, make life, look at intelligence, all this, is so people say, what are the consequences of this? And you say, well, the consequences of not doing it.
And I think that what worries me right now in the present is lack of authenticated users and authenticated data.
Yeah, human users.
But that's like a tool, right? It's a bit like a meditation tool, right? Some people have a meditation tool. It makes them feel better. But I'm not sure you can ascribe sentience and legal rights to a chatbot that makes you feel less lonely.
But the dog's sentient.
The chatbot's not. Right now, using the technology we use, it's not going to be sentient.
Um, I was God. Yeah. I don't know what God is. Uh, I mean, so God exists in our minds created by selection. So the human beings have created the concept of God in the same way that human beings have created the concept of super intelligence.
I think the universe, there is a creative force in the universe, but I don't think it's sent in. I mean, I think the... So I do not understand the universe. So who am I to say, you know... that God doesn't exist. I am an atheist, but I'm not an angry atheist, right?
I have lots of, I have lots of, there's some people I know that are angry atheists and say, you know, say that religious people are stupid. I don't think that's the case. Um, I have faith in some things cause I don't, I mean, when I was a kid, I kept like, you know, it's like, I need to know what the charge of electron is. I'm like, I can't measure the charge of an electron.
I just gave up and had faith. Okay, resistors worked. So when it comes to... I want to know why the universe is growing in the future and what humanity is going to become. And I've seen that the acquisition of knowledge... via the generation of novelty to produce technology has uniformly made humans' lives better. I would love to continue that tradition.
And... You said that there's that creative force.
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