Lee Gelernt
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Yes, sorry Rachel. Yeah, they, they were in. Real danger absolutely real danger. We had been hearing the night before that they were getting these notices and that they would be removed that night or the next day.
Yes, sorry Rachel. Yeah, they, they were in. Real danger absolutely real danger. We had been hearing the night before that they were getting these notices and that they would be removed that night or the next day.
and then we found out they were on buses so we did what we could do unfortunately the spring court stepped in what was remarkable is that the government had been going around the country saying we get the supreme court said we have to give notice and we will give reasonable notice i think we were even shocked that it turned out that the government was giving them notice
and then we found out they were on buses so we did what we could do unfortunately the spring court stepped in what was remarkable is that the government had been going around the country saying we get the supreme court said we have to give notice and we will give reasonable notice i think we were even shocked that it turned out that the government was giving them notice
12 to 24 hours in advance, unrepresented people, a form only in English that did not tell them they had a right to contest what was happening, much less how long they had to do it or how to do it. Under no conceivable understanding of what the Supreme Court said when it said these individuals are entitled to due process and notice, was this sufficient?
12 to 24 hours in advance, unrepresented people, a form only in English that did not tell them they had a right to contest what was happening, much less how long they had to do it or how to do it. Under no conceivable understanding of what the Supreme Court said when it said these individuals are entitled to due process and notice, was this sufficient?
The administration is just going about trying to evade judicial review in any way they can, notwithstanding even Supreme Court rulings.
The administration is just going about trying to evade judicial review in any way they can, notwithstanding even Supreme Court rulings.
Yeah. You're absolutely right, Rachel. I mean, the one core part of due process is you will get notice of what the government's trying to do to you and the ability to contest it. And the Supreme Court was really clear on April 7th, the first time this issue was up there. It said the notice must be sufficient to act. The Supreme Court put in the word actually.
Yeah. You're absolutely right, Rachel. I mean, the one core part of due process is you will get notice of what the government's trying to do to you and the ability to contest it. And the Supreme Court was really clear on April 7th, the first time this issue was up there. It said the notice must be sufficient to act. The Supreme Court put in the word actually.
Actually get into court to contest what's happening. At this point, these are just unilateral allegations by our government that you should spend the rest of your life potentially in a foreign prison. These are Venezuelans being sent to El Salvador potentially for the rest of their lives and not having the ability to contest what's going on.
Actually get into court to contest what's happening. At this point, these are just unilateral allegations by our government that you should spend the rest of your life potentially in a foreign prison. These are Venezuelans being sent to El Salvador potentially for the rest of their lives and not having the ability to contest what's going on.
The United States government, if they feel like what they're doing is lawful, should have no problem putting it before a court and letting a court decide. Yet every single chance they get, they're trying to evade judicial review.
The United States government, if they feel like what they're doing is lawful, should have no problem putting it before a court and letting a court decide. Yet every single chance they get, they're trying to evade judicial review.
We are filing all over the country because they will never tell us who they're going to try and do this to or give advance notice in complete defiance of what the Supreme Court has said.
We are filing all over the country because they will never tell us who they're going to try and do this to or give advance notice in complete defiance of what the Supreme Court has said.
Well, that's great. And because, you know, one of the things that I think is now starting to resonate with people is they say, well, I'm not a gang member. I can't be sent. But if there's no due process and they pick you up and you have no chance to contest it, then anybody literally can end up for the rest of their life in El Salvador.
Well, that's great. And because, you know, one of the things that I think is now starting to resonate with people is they say, well, I'm not a gang member. I can't be sent. But if there's no due process and they pick you up and you have no chance to contest it, then anybody literally can end up for the rest of their life in El Salvador.
And I think that's why due process is so important for everyone. Everyone needs to be paying attention to the Trump administration, eliminating basic bedrocks that have been a part of this country for over 200 years.
And I think that's why due process is so important for everyone. Everyone needs to be paying attention to the Trump administration, eliminating basic bedrocks that have been a part of this country for over 200 years.