Leigh Campbell

Is there a right length so they still sit nicely?

I think she wants to be able to wear flats and heels.

Okay.

Are we asking too much?

Okay.

Okay.

So with the heel, I mean, I guess if you put a heel on, you don't think, I guess it could just look kind of cropped, not cropped, but I guess enough to show off your footwear instead of puddling over it, then you couldn't even wear flats.

Yes.

So flats are the most important because once you go up, they're not going to drag on.

I get it.

So start with the flats because then you're not going to ruin the pants.

I've done it the other way around.

I've always taken my heels because usually if I'm paying to get pants tailored, it's because I want to wear them nice enough to wear somewhere with heels.

Okay.

Then the next time you're going to put them on with flats, you're like, well, these are still too long.

Yeah.

It can give you a little bit more wearability.

Yes, I love that.

I'm doing everything backwards.

Okay, after the break, Hayley, you have literally scoured the shops and you've got three pairs of loafers to tell us about.