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Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

Ethereum has a market cap of $253 billion.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

dollars which i would argue is slightly low not greatly low but slightly low time will tell what happens with crypto in the next couple of weeks especially if we don't get clarity with clarity act and we don't get other legislation designed to improve the state of everything with cryptocurrency speaking of cryptocurrency in general you might be confused or oblivious if you're in the united states

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

regarding the tax situation if you've not been if you've been ducking taxes you've not been paying taxes you're not paying attention this part of the episode is for you because you may have not noticed the irs has flipped the script on the rules for taxation of crypto a while ago i gave a message that said if we don't fix the tax situation if we don't clean this up

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

get some clarity around taxation with respect to cryptocurrency it's going to be a problem for adoption here we are let me try to simplify what the irs has essentially said what the irs has essentially said is regardless of whether it's a self-custody wallet or a custodial exchange anytime you do a transaction of some kind they're treating that as a taxable event and they

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

are requiring the various exchanges and brokers, not just exchanges, but also brokers, to collect and document all of these different transactional activities, provide a statement of gross proceeds, and it's referred to as Form 1099-DA.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

This is including certain transactions for the purposes of financial basis, but not all of them.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

That's the key point people are missing.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

It's not comprehensive.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

It does not capture every single transaction that they expect you to, not just because of the self custody, but simply because there's ambiguity when we say every single transaction needs to be accounted for.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

So let me give you the set, the example that they quoted.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

You get some Bitcoin.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

Let's say you go to the Bitcoin ATM.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

I just had a lady I was next to.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

She got some Bitcoin at the ATM, Bitcoin ATM, get the Bitcoin goes to your self custody wallet.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

That's a taxable event because you purchased it.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

Then you go into the exchange.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

So let's say you're going to transfer, transfer it over to exchange to let sit there.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

The transfer is a taxable event, believe it or not, which is stupid, but they treat it as a taxable event because there is a bit of conversion that happens.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

When it's an exchange, there's a conversion inbound.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

That's why they refer to as a spread.