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Leister

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Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

When you send it to them, it goes into your wallet that's there.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

At that point, it's made available for trading.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

Then there are pairs that are associated with it.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

And so what the IRS is trying to do is document, all right, where all of the various trading events that could happen.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

So Bitcoin to Ethereum, Bitcoin to USDT, Bitcoin to USDC, et cetera, right?

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

All these different pairs are avenues for transaction.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

The exchange notes where all these could go.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

And when you make a trade, even if you didn't profit, they're still documenting the transaction.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

So you take your Bitcoin,

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

decide to sell it for whatever you did because you just bought it right but let's say you did you sold it because it jumped up 20 or something that's a taxable event they're documenting gross proceeds but then they said well i go to i start the exchange now from the exchange i'm going to withdraw it to a self-custody wallet and sit on it for a while let's say three months

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

starts pumping up again, I'm going to send it back into the exchange, same exchange.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

They treat that as a taxable event because you profited, quote, even though you didn't sell it.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

So the big delineation of what I just described, look it up, is they're no longer directly focusing, and they kind of weren't before, but they're really no longer focusing on a sell.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

They're focusing on whether or not there was a change in value as the asset moved.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

And just the transaction of it moving, they're treating it as a taxable event.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

Now, the flaw of this, as I said, in my older one is just because the price is moving.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

If you have not sold an unrealized loss, they're not benefiting you, right?

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

They're not allowing you to deduct because you had an unrealized loss.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

It had to be a realized loss yet.

Crypto Talk Radio: Basic Cryptonomics
IRS Issues Guidance On 1099-DA Crypto Reporting; Bitcoin Under Threat

If there's an unrealized gain,