Lennart Heim

I mean, this is the concentrate of, right?

Security comes at a cost.

But this is also known for every company.

And every company has ideally a CISO who takes care that your IP is secure, right?

Yeah, I mean, look, there is like the view you just laid out, like it's a national security issue.

It's like, well, they build AI, it takes off, and then it's going to kill us all.

I think that's a national security risk.

I think there are many other national security risks, which are between AI is all good and between AI is going to kill us all.

There are many different risks, right?

We talk about cyber risk.

We talk about biological misuse.

We talk about loss of control scenarios, right?

And they all need to be managed.

And I think they're actually not too different from like normal security risk, which we're trying to manage all day long.

If the US is trying to decide who to sell fighter jets to,

Pretty similar on this one, right?

And then you're totally right.

Eventually, if you decide to not sell chips to China, you might lose revenue, right?

That's just the case.

I think this is just like, again, what the government, again, it has been bipartisan consensus for, has decided.