Lenny Rachitsky

That is the thing.

I want to hear the kind of the open AI versus anthropic story, because you've mentioned a part of the structural pieces, this nonprofit.

So talk about just like what happened there and how that relates to what you talk about versus the anthropic.

And then I actually want to hear a little bit about just actual structure.

Like, what is this two tier thing?

What's the nonprofit piece?

So, and when you say standard government, like every one of these AI companies is not doing it the way every other startup is doing.

They understood they needed to do something different to protect humanity essentially from AI.

Okay.

Okay, so just to kind of plant these things in people's heads as they, okay, we need to really think about this stuff.

There's like this...

There's a nonprofit approach to this.

What are the kind of the terms that people should just think about?

If this all sounds like a huge drag and a lot of work and really annoying, I'd say go back an hour when we talked a lot about just what is it you were trying to avoid and the pain.

And hearing these from you is important and powerful because you see so many founders.

There's few people in the world that see the number of founders, meet with the number of founders, work with as many startups as you.

And this is not an easy place you're in, trying to convince people to do these very annoying things.

And so it just says a lot that you're putting yourself out there this much for you guys.

Pay attention.

This is, even though it feels weird now, the idea is this should not, this should be- Our grandkids will think this is the most obvious thing they've ever heard about.