Lenny Rachitsky

I can't just sit back and hope it all works out okay.

And then they maybe found a moment of joy.

They built something that's super cool and just like, hey, check this out.

What other advice do you have for folks listening to help them be to serve?

I don't know.

Let's not say survive, but just like thrive in this future that is emerging for product.

I like thrive.

Something you mentioned earlier was really interesting that in the next five years, you predict that most people's jobs will be very different.

What are you imagining there?

Will there still be this product manager role?

Will PMs need to move closer to engineering?

What's the Venn diagrams or spectrum you're seeing of where current PMs may go?

There's a line, they thought they buried us.

They didn't know that we were seeds that I think about.

I love that.

Speaking of that, there's this hilarious tweet that just came out the other day that I have here where this guy describes the only four jobs that will remain in the future.

So the only four jobs that will exist in the future.

One is product engineer, vibe coder, PM, slop cannon.

Number two is security SRE infra person.

Number three is hot people, which is like, you know, like getting people to buy your stuff, customer service kind of like people, the way they're scared.