Leon Nafok

And I want to talk, you mentioned agencies.

So the top really successful creators can be represented by agencies.

And Gracie, you talked about how you're offering the girlfriend experience.

You're waking up in the morning and messaging your subscribers as if it's like...

good morning, hon, whatever.

That was really good.

Was that good?

Do I have a future?

I hear I can make a lot of money.

Yeah, let's talk after.

You got a future.

So one way to make a lot more money is to have people do that talk for you.

I have like a little over 6,000 right now.

Yeah.

And this is so complicated because as you said, OnlyFans really, it's been around since 2016, but it really blows up during the pandemic when everyone is at home, everyone is lonely.

You know, we start hearing about the loneliness epidemic.

And so you have potentially very lonely people who, yes, they are paying to talk to someone like you, Gracie, or someone like

bell grace or whomever.

And it's really easy to forget that you're paying for that relationship and to feel like it's authentic.

And, and you also talk to someone who works at an agency in the podcast.