Leslie John

28, five years, so divorced around 33, I guess, right?

Yeah.

Why did that marriage end, based on the research you've done in your book, now that you have wisdom, I'm sure it's a collection of things, this isn't a therapy session, but why do you feel like, based on this conversation and this research, what would you have done differently

Even if it was still the wrong match or there wasn't the right fit or whatever.

I mean, maybe some other stuff happened.

Right, right.

What would you have done differently before getting married to see if it was the right thing?

It's so interesting because most of my childhood, I probably had the lowest IQ of everyone.

Well, I learned through suffering and feeling like I was so stupid.

I was in the bottom of my class all through elementary school, high school, college.

I was in the bottom because they would rank us.

And so I would always see myself in the bottom four.

So it just reconfirmed, oh, I'm stupid.

It's horrible.

I can't figure this out.

No matter how hard I tried, it was like, I'm not going to be smart.

But then what I would do is I would just observe people all day long and study people's behaviors and watch, why are they reacting that way?

And I would just sit there and people watch all day in school, all day out of school.

I would just sit there and, you know, not like a creeper, but I would just be like observing people all day long.

And I was constantly reflecting on why did they respond this way?