Leslie John

Why you love him.

Yes, I agree.

That does sound though also like...

the course of love and relationships and infatuation where the stages of being infatuated with someone and then over time, you see that they scratch their bum and there's more.

They clear their throat a lot.

Yeah, and it's the kind of positive illusions go away to an extent.

I think this is where, again, getting there together is really important because when you build that together, social psychology says this on intimate relationships, that then you get these positive illusions as you go along and the positive illusions sustain you a lot longer, I would think, than if it's this one-sided thing that's very kind of artificial in a way.

But I say artificial lightly because the feelings are real.

And I do think that when people feel lonely during COVID, parasocial interactions were a source of great comfort to people.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So that was one of the first scientific explorations of this, or it was talked about in a scientific way, is in the 50s.

So there was a TV show called like Ding Dong School or something like this.

And there was a woman in it.

It was a kid's show, Miss Frances.

And, you know, TVs were novel then.

And this was so interesting that this person could talk to you.

that it looked like she was there.

And so what the children started doing is trying to bang open or like take apart the TV.

Because they wanted to let her out because they thought she was, I know.