Leslie John

It's a campaign.

It's not a one-shot thing.

And I think that also hopefully liberates people into thinking, well, if I didn't quite describe myself right this time, like I will have another conversation.

It's an ongoing interactive dialogue.

Yes, absolutely.

And that's a completely valid concern.

It's especially valid when just the people that you're really close to and you love them and you feel like

you've wronged them.

This is kind of one of the hardest types of disclosures to make.

he also hit on this point, he said, it's like I'm a different person.

And that's a kind of self dissonance that is a really hard thing to deal with.

Because we like to think of ourselves as faithful, kind to our spouses, but then there's this thing we did that is antithetical to that.

And so then you're like, well, who am I?

And he said, compartmentalize, and that's kind of a coping mechanism is to compartmentalize that.

but it's not the healthiest of coping mechanisms.

Oh, that's exactly where my mind was going as well.

I think that this is a core thing.

When thinking about whether to reveal a secret,

What's your North Star?

What's your purpose?