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Lewis Bollard

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
737 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Now, the amount of money spent just on those corporate reforms, that was less than $100 million a year over a couple of years.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And so we're talking about a ratio that is far less than 1 to 10 of $1 per year of animal well-being improved.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

I think it's very unique.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And I think the reason this philanthropic opportunity exists is because this area has been systematically neglected, which is to say that most people, when they think of philanthropy, do not think of farmed animals.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

You know, it's most people pile into the popular areas like education and healthcare and climate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And as a result, you end up with these outsized opportunities that no one has taken advantage of.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Like, it's like if the space had billions of dollars in it, as other philanthropic areas do, you would not see opportunities like this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

In that case, we'd love to hear from you.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So people can message me on X or they can reach out to my colleague, Andreas.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

That is, Andreas was 1A.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So it is A-N-D-R-E-S at openphilanthropy.org.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And he would love to work with you and I'd love to work with you to help you spend that money as effectively as possible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Yeah, I think there are a couple of things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So the first is countries where their protein consumption is rapidly growing and there is not yet a deeply entrenched animal agricultural industry have the ability to do things differently.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And in particular, they have the ability to support alternative protein work without that being politically toxic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And so, for example, we see China investing very heavily in cultivated meat research.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

The majority of patents coming out globally on cultivated meat now are coming out from public universities in China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So this is a case where just like the US is being overtaken because we have this entrenched industry that is ferociously lobbying.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

I also think there's the potential to extend animal welfare policies globally.