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Lewis Bollard

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
737 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Because domestic farmers, local farmers are going to be very opposed to any law if they realize they're just going to get undercut by, how to say, a competition.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Rightly so.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And so I think this is a chance to also change that political dynamic so they can actually support the law, knowing that they are not at a relative disadvantage.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

An upcoming bill, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

This is right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So the pork industry, unfortunately, has looked at these laws in California and Massachusetts and wants to do everything it can to undermine them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

I mean, it knows this is the only way it can be effectively regulated, given it has an absolute hold on the legislature in Iowa and North Carolina, which are the main states for pork production.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

It knows that it needs to stop any other state from setting production standards or sales standards.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And so it first went to the Supreme Court.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

It first said, this is unconstitutional.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

The states can't do this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And the Supreme Court disagreed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

We won at the Supreme Court.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And so now it has gone to Congress.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And it's saying to Congress, you need to wipe out these state laws.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

You need to stop them from doing this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And the unfortunate thing is the Senate and the House are both on track to do that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So in the upcoming Farm Bill, there is language that would ban states from passing laws that

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

on the sales standard, on animal welfare sales standards on goods.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And right now, the default path is that that will pass as part of the farm bill in the next few months.