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Lewis Bollard

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
737 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So, I mean, I think you actually see that in the egg sector in the US.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So, within eggs, there is clearer labeling.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

K3 actually means something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Pasteurized actually means something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

You can't put the all-natural label on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And what we see is that the pasteurized egg sector is growing rapidly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And even then, it is still handicapped by the fact that supermarkets use this as a price differentiation tool.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So, they know that wealthier consumers prefer

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

pasture-based eggs and are also less price sensitive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And so they mark them up heavily.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

So the price you see is way inflated beyond the actual cost difference.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And yet still, that is a rapidly growing sector.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

I think this is the non-commodity part of the industry.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

But I mean, the broader context on those retailers is US retailers, almost all the top US retailers have made pledges to stop selling eggs from cage tents.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

What they are now saying, a lot of them were meant to do that by this year, and a lot of them have not done it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Walmart, Kroger have not followed through.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And what they say is, well, our consumers don't want the K3 eggs because they're way more expensive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

And it's true, they're way more expensive.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

They're selling them for like $1 to $2 more per dozen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence โ€” Lewis Bollard

Right.