Lewis Goodall

He has got them as part of the conversation.

I mean, I don't know about you, I can't quite remember many times that Adrian Ramsey, when he was leader, made significant waves in the political conversation.

And what he's done is move them basically to be a sort of Corbyn-Easter party.

That also has some consequences, right?

We've seen in some parts of the country, the slightly sort of more leafy, Lib Dem-y parts of the country, where they were sort of starting to do well.

That actually that cost them.

Exactly.

That cost them because actually that sort of more economically populist red and tooth in the core agenda does not particularly resonate with those voters.

But what we're absolutely seeing that there is absolutely no doubt that, you know, Emily, you talked about have reformed people.

Maybe they have.

The worry for Labour is that maybe they haven't reached their floor.

And it is possible that the Greens could have further room to grow.

Let's not forget that Jeremy Corbyn, if we do accept that they are a sort of Corbyn Easter party, Jeremy Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017.

He got 33.5% of the vote in 2019.

That's only 1.5% less than Starmer got in 2024.

And that's the other big part of this.

picture that we mustn't forget, right?

Stonewall was never very popular to begin with.

And so, you know, there is potential room to grow and therefore there could be more places where they cost Labour more seats and more votes in other parts of the country next time around.

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