Lewis Goodall

be one of the reasons they may have peaked, if they have peaked.

I mean, the Tories kept Suella's own council last night in Farnham, in her own backyard.

The Conservatives actually retained it rather than going to reform.

I mean, Essex... And this is the thing.

I mean, in a way... I mean, this is the conversation the Labour Party is going to be having, right?

Even if it accepts at the time being that Starmer, they're not willing to move against him for lots of different reasons we've discussed.

These elections, what they will do is intensify the two pillars of the party, basically, the two parts of the coalition.

You'll have large tranches of the party...

in London and urban-facing seats where the Labour Party has dominated for 15 years, who say, we've got to take the green threat more seriously, we've got to sound more progressive, we've got to move to the left.

And then you're going to have sort of the Red Wall places where they've got reform breathing down their necks going, you've got to be joking.

I mean, you mentioned the EU, Emily, and this idea that Kyrgyzstan has been, you know, want to signal, get closer to the EU.

You're going to have a whole load of Red Wall voters who are going, what?

You must be joking.

This cannot be the time that we turn around to my constituents who were heavily Brexit voting and now voting for reform.

I mean, Angela Rayner...

And this is basically what the Labour Party's got to work out, right?

Which is that on paper, it's like the Reform Coalition now.

You've got Essex, you've got these places in the north of England, you've even got some in sort of semi-urban seats.

On paper, Scotland, Wales, it kind of looks like this isn't a coalition which should cohere.

But that's the point, right?