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Lewis Hart

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
368 total appearances

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Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

So you sort of look at this intersection of commodity trade finance, family business, and in the middle of those two overlapping circles is the peanut tree nut industry.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

Got it.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

Usually you wouldn't take delivery if you didn't intend to.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

So usually it means something went wrong.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

There are certain products where you actually buy the commodity physically with a contract to sell it back in the future.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

It's a form of inventory financing called a repurchase agreement.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

But typically, your goal is to manage the credit so it's a good company that doesn't default on the loan, and therefore you avoid having to get out of the loan the second way, which is liquidating the collateral.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

So you try to avoid that at all costs.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

If you had to, the good news is you can typically sell it in the location where it exists.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

So if it's in...

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

a tank in Houston and it's X barrels of oil, you kind of say to someone else, hey, can I sell you this?

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

It's sitting here and they'll quote you a price.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

So it's not as dramatic as actually arriving at our doorstep.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

And we try to avoid having to do that.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

That's part of our job.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

Something has gone wrong if we're doing that, but it has happened before over our 206 year history.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

Yeah.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

So if you look at the origin of the futures market, it was really designed to help farmers manage their price risk.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

So think of a grain farmer in Iowa.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

Yeah.