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Lewis Hart

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
368 total appearances

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The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

There was sort of a group of banks, particularly European banks, that dominated.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

I would say in the last 10 years, many of those banks have actually stepped away from the market for a variety of reasons.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

And as a result, there are not that many in the U.S.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

who really specialize in this.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

We're one of them.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

But there are plenty of European banks that really understand this business.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

And what we've seen is you're seeing more and more interest in this asset class from institutional investors.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

So they like short-term, floating rates, inflation protection, uncorrelated to the broader equity markets.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

There's some really attractive features in this.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

Yeah.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

It's historically been a very small group of banks, but it's starting to expand into the institutional investor world.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

We're typically holding the majority of it, but we will syndicate risk out to other investors from time to time as well.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

And we have some partners that we work with.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

We have different banks that will essentially buy risk from Brown Brothers.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

But we're always holding a significant portion of the risk on our balance sheet.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

It's definitely a Basel story to some extent.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

I think as Basel IV has kind of taken hold, you see more and more capital requirements that make it harder

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

to issue letters of credit and things like that.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

That's definitely part of it.

Odd Lots
The Hidden Plumbing of Commodity Finance

I think another big part of it is just the administrative intensity of running this business.