Lex Fridman

So you were imagining his voice.

Yeah, you've said that the ending of that ending of RDR1 is one of the best things you've been a part of creating.

Why?

Why is that ending so powerful to you?

What does it represent?

I mean, it's incredible because I don't think, I don't remember a single video game that has done that before.

Yeah.

What about the decision with the son?

You know, John gives so much effort to make sure that Jack doesn't end up in a life of violence.

And then it, I mean, it's very Godfather-like.

He's dragged back into it through revenge.

Can you just dig in a little deeper?

What do you mean by for the game to work?

It's such a direct... It's like Kubrick talking about for this movie to work, it has to have... Because from my perspective, I just think about the story.

What's the technical aspect for the game to work?

Oh, there's real power there.

uh, for the avatar to end the finiteness.

I mean, I was really shaken by that experience, but it's a beautiful experience.

It's like an unforgettable experience.

What else can video games possibly reach for?