Lex Fridman

Because that's a bit of a meme.

We have very different opinions with Kiran.

Meaning it's a bit too utopian?

That's the initial instinct for a lot of people when they show up to a code base, probably before LLMs, is like, probably because they don't understand the wisdom of the way things have been done in the past.

They say, well, we need to rewrite it.

Hence why there's a thousand JavaScript frameworks.

There's a source of joy and happiness with programming for different reasons.

But I think one of the greatest happinesses is in the optimization of code.

And it sounds like you're at the cutting edge.

So a part when you're programming assembly at that high level, a part of that is knowing the architecture that you're programming on.

On ARM in particular, yes.

ARM in particular.

But I mean, these are complicated architectures, right?

We're taking a nonlinear journey through history here, but we're talking about Michael Niedermeyer.

I wanted to ask about this.

For a time, there was a split in FFmpeg and LibAV.

Yes.

You have such a nice way of putting it, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you're making it sound really nice, but there's pretty heated battles inside open source projects.

I mean, it is a very passionate community, and you are kind of in a distributed way, have to define the direction of things.