Lieutenant Robert Young
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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She had like a large t-shirt on and she had underwear underneath it. And the underwear were intact. Sexual assault kit was taken and there was no indication that this was a sexually related attack. Her living room table was turned over. So it appeared maybe she was running around the table and the assailant just flipped the table over and got to her. Her shirt pocket was torn off.
Like it's almost maybe someone grabbed it and yanked it off.
Carol is very security conscious, according to people who were interviewed who knew her. So they found that odd that her sliding glass door was open. So that leads you to speculate. Did she have the sliding glass door open in the evening because it was nice out and then the assailant could have just leapt into the balcony and made their way in through there?
or whether she knew someone and she opened the door for them willingly and let them in. There was a ladder left nearby because her building was being painted, and all the painters who were working on the building were interviewed as part of the investigation. So there was a ladder that was actually taken as evidence by the detectives back then.
There's about eight to ten buildings off the top of my head, and it's kind of in a horseshoe shape. It's an odd setup. If you drive in, it's almost like they wedged this condo in there in limited space and had to figure out how to get as many units as possible in this small area. If you drive in, you kind of have to go in reverse to get out of the condominium complex.
There was a couple who went out to dinner. They said around 7.30 at night. And they're coming into the condominium parking lot, which is more of an alleyway. And they're driving and there's a male in front of them who is tall, dark hair, and did not look back. So you've got the car and you've got this guy just walking, doesn't turn around. They said, that's weird.
And they kept following him, like, what is this guy doing in our driveway? It looked like he clearly didn't belong there. So then he turns, and then they turn, but you can't go any further over here. That's why people have to kind of back out. And then he takes off running. Now, I will say a lot of people go behind these condos to fish. So we have to chase people out of there all the time.
People just assume they can walk on people's property and just sit back there and go fishing and hang out and smoke pot and do whatever the hell they do back there. But this guy runs away. So what happens later is there's a prowler. At about 10, 10.30 at night, there's a couple who see, when they're looking out the window, someone who resembles that same person in the area.
And he said that at 4.15 or 4.30 in the morning, he was unable to sleep and he heard a strange noise. He said it sounded like two pieces of metal striking against one another. Could have been a ladder, right?
We later found out at about 7.15 in the morning, the couple down below were getting ready to start their day, having breakfast, getting their blinds opened up. And because of how narrow this driveway is in this condo unit, they heard Carol's car start up. And they heard the engine revving. And the person in there...
because you have to, the way it's situated, he was going in reverse, backing out of the condominium driveway. And from the best of their recollection, they estimated it could have been a person with dark hair, possibly Hispanic, backing out of the driveway.
His parents lived across the road in another condo called Lausanne. And he had come over near the pool area and made some really bizarre comments to some of the ladies. And then detectives interviewed people at Lausanne and they said, he's a little off.
Off the top of my head, I don't remember exactly, so I'll paraphrase, but she said, if it's Jim, he can get people from anywhere or he can be anywhere. But he was immediately mentioned in items that detectives had recovered at the time. And Wilma had mentioned during interviews with them that she said, if anything did happen to me, that it was Jim Clement who was responsible.
The car is located at the Fort Myers Airport. It's a rest area. One of the attendants who checked in the rest area saw that the car had been here a while. It's got no tag on it. Looked inside. Doors were locked. Nothing appeared out of place. The back seats, though, were pulled out off their slide. But I don't know if Carol did that. Don't know if the suspect did that.
But the car was left there and the plates were removed. The theory was, okay, someone took it there, dropped it off, because the airport is literally less than a mile away at the time.
Carol was going to receive the condo and... a certain amount of money for the next, I believe it was 42 months. She was going to receive some form of alimony and then X amount of dollars, etc. And there was some inheritance money. So here we are, maybe a week away from finally putting an end to this divorce and putting everything to bed and they can both go their own ways. And she turns up dead.
So the timing was extraordinary.
All detectives' efforts to see if James Clement was in town were not successful. He had an alibi that he was staying with a Nelms family and were renting a room from them, basement room maybe, in Virginia. And Mr. Nelms was too ill to go to a concert on that Saturday night. And so he escorted Mrs. Nelms to a concert in Northern Virginia. And they both were interviewed separately.
And that was the story detectives received. Detectives checked airline logs into Fort Myers, checked trains, things of that nature. And nothing indicated that James Clement was here in southwest Florida on the night of the homicides.
You know, they checked all these logs, but who are you looking for? You know, you weren't looking for Jim Clement anymore. You're looking for no one.
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