Lily
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Hmm.
Yeah.
Did you see this Jamaican mom yank her son off the line? That was wild.
You only have those little energy pouches that you can, they're like go-gurt, but Gatorade or something. So I'm like, get him some first world shit. The guy's on the side like, give me a banana, a banana. I'm like, you want me to go to the grocery store? I have a banana right now. But yeah, I'm like trying to hand him water so they're just ignoring me. I'm like, okay.
No way.
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Yes, that's all I wanted.
Sounds good. Bye, guys.
All right. So, David, I've technically DM'd you about this before and we've chatted about it. So I'm sorry that this is a little repetitive.
I would like to transport you guys to the lovely dairy land of the USA, Wisconsin.
Specifically known as the land of cheese.
Madison, Wisconsin. So the capital.
And as quick background, I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, which yeah, Rob, you get it. Did not realize that it's a whole different world coming to Wisconsin in terms of like agriculture, cheese mostly. So I, a lot of this, I did come in with a fresh perspective, the cheese industry, which was really cool.
One of my first like full time professional jobs was in the Wisconsin cheese industry, specifically marketing and communication and a little bit of like lobbying law.
I'm the big cheese. Yes.
Okay. Well, like first thing I have to say is like the amount of puns that you've already maybe unintentionally said, but like, that's probably the worst part of the job was that everyone thought they were super unique and they'd be like, have a good time. And I'm like,
But so my expertise, quote unquote, to be very clear to anyone else from Wisconsin listening, I'm not saying I'm the ultimate cheese expert, but my viewpoint being in communications and kind of that being how the industry actually plays out. I'm glad that there's other people there who think that it's so interesting. I think one of the most compelling parts about it is that
Yes, it's like a stereotype. Rob, I'm sure you know this. David, do you know about the cheesehead hats that people wear?
A wedge.
Oh, absolutely.
I love making the visuals. Thank you. And that's actually a whole company that produces those in Wisconsin. That could be its own thing. Okay. But like, so those stereotypes are real though. There's a whole debate over cheese curds. Should they be squeaky or should they be deep fried?
I agree. And you have to try both. When I went to the University of Wisconsin-Madison here as an undergrad, I didn't know that cheese soup is a thing. Oftentimes it's beer cheese soup. So in the dining halls they have, it's essentially nacho cheese with some broth thrown in.
And listen, I'm lactose intolerant, so I'm biased, but yeah.
No, actually, if you had more, your body would probably get used to it, but I will say, quick disclaimer, if you have any of your aged cheeses, you're good. Throwing that out there. That's my PSA.
It's not that it was too much cheese, it's that seeing the backside of anything can be a little rough behind the curtain. how the sausage is made, but cheese, I went into it. Yeah. Not knowing that much. There are some incredible things about it. Like Wisconsin produces 3.5 billion pounds of cheese a year.
And If Wisconsin was a country, it'd be the fourth largest producer of cheese.
I'm just going to make a checkmark every time there's a pun. So yeah, it produces like 25% of the nation's cheese. And you need a special license to make it. You could argue that cheesemaking requires more safety than purchasing a gun in this state, some might say. Um, there's an Alice in Dairyland competition, which is like a Wisconsin beauty pageant, but specifically for dairy.
Oh, I've met her. There's a new one every year.
Yeah. Miss Dairyland. Yeah. Yep. I know. And again, this was all shocking to me and then it gets normalized.
Um, So the biggest event, my job was specifically for like the internal trade organization. So I think it was in the egg episode. I was like, so relating to you. You're like, yeah, they didn't really get back. Didn't explain. Yeah. Cause they're not used to having to market externally. Right.
So the biggest event that we put on every year, they either host the U S cheese competition or the world's championship cheese contest. And right here in Madison, Wisconsin, capital city, um, And it has over, let me think, 2000 submissions. And it's not just cheese. You can also submit your dry dairy products, your yogurts, really anything you could think of.
I learned that you can make cheese from camel's milk.
Didn't try it. So you'll have like dozens and dozens of countries. Like when I worked there, it was the national, no, the.
My understanding, and I don't want to bad mouth because I could be wrong, but I believe a lot of it has to do with like it's a scholarship program that, you know, you are either going to work in the dairy industry or maybe you grew up on a dairy farm with a cheese maker. And then you're essentially like the PR for, you know, Wisconsin Dairy and Cheese.
You show up to different events in like a full on sash.
My sister is a GI doctor in the Twin Cities, and they have a specific term for all the GI illnesses that families get, and it's called DAGE, D-A-G-E, for Dell's Associated Gastroenteritis.
I know, and they started this first, listen.
Can I add one more thing that I think is even cooler?
So you know how in those like 80s and 90s cartoons, like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, any animated pizza looks so appetizing.
The cheese pulls, which is, by the way, something they do measure in these cheese contests. And you have judges in white coats. Like it is so serious. There's competitions of who can pull a cheese plug out, which is when you have those wheels of cheese that are like bigger than I can make with my arms.
You have a special instrument. It's big. Anyway, so there's attached to the University of Wisconsin-Madison something called the Center for Dairy Research. And they are essentially credited with making all of your favorite cheeses and dairy products. So they will make a recipe for Kerrygold cheese, that very big Irish brand, and then sell them the recipe. But it actually started here.
So when it comes to that cartoon pizza pull... Other countries were so mesmerized by those cartoons that they contacted the research center and were like, how can we make cheese like that? And had the food scientists specifically make cheese that would pull and be as beautiful as that. And it's credited with kicking off pizza in Japanese culture.
I was also a French miner, and if you did say that to the French, they would guillotine you, but yes.
I would say the negatives are the more lobbying politics side of it. that we don't have to go and do, but that's where maybe it wasn't the best fit for me.
You're amazing.
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Snowflakes are falling more quickly now, and there's already a thick blanket of white on the ground. The first time she saw the windows of the bakery, there were no fairy lights. She had only just arrived in town and was walking down the main street on a typically rainy day. Sie konnte Leute sehen, ihre neuen Nachbarn, zusammen auf dem Block zu fahren und in und aus den Shoppen zu gehen.
Ein Zeichen für einen Buchstaben schickte ihr Auge, also machte sie ihren Weg innen. Eine kleine Glocke klingelte, als sie die Tür öffnete. Beachtlich von der Regen, hat Lilly ihre Schuhe auf dem Schuhmatt gewaschen. Ein freundlicher, älterer Mann kam herüber und hat sich als Richard, den Verbraucher, eingeladen. Es ist nicht oft, dass man in der Stadt ein neues Gesicht sieht, hat er ihr gesagt.
Sie erklärte, dass sie gerade von einem langen Weg entfernt war und ihr neues Zuhause kennenlernen musste. Was für ein besserer Ort als der lokalen Buchstabe zu beginnen. Seine Augen kringelten an den Ecken und er lachte breit, als sie das sagte. You can always spot a fellow book lover, Richard used to say. They spent nearly an hour chatting about their favorite books.
Everything from fantasy to science fiction to Richards' fascination with old illustrated fairy tales and mid-century biographies. Lily left the bookshop that day with a bag full of novels and a new friend. Stop by anytime, Richard reminded her with a grin as she slipped out the door.
This time, Lily is packing up mince pies to give to her friends for the holidays, when she finds herself reminiscing about first opening the bakery years ago. As always, it was beautifully written by Shady Grove, our head writer, and I have the pleasure of reading it for you. First though, I want to remind you that you can listen completely ad-free on Get Sleepy Premium.
Sie ging auf den Berg nach ihrem neuen Zuhause und verschloss sich für die Nacht mit einer der Recommendationen von Richard. Sie redete, bis sie aufs Schlafen fliegte, den Geräusch des Regens, der auf dem unbekannten Boden leuchtete. When she awoke the following day, she went back into town. Idly, she thought of paying Richard another visit.
They got to talking straight away, and after a while, he paused and gave her a thoughtful look. What are you hoping to do with your new life here? It's quite a small town after all, he said. Lily mentioned that she'd always dreamed of opening her own bakery, being her own boss for a change. She knew it would be incredibly hard work.
But she'd saved up and had inherited a little money from a relative. You know, there's a space next door, he said, gesturing to his right. It used to be a coffee shop, but I like the sound of a bakery even better. After all, bookshops and bakeries just seem to go together, don't they? He said with a smile. It sounded like a wonderful plan. But how often do wonderful plans really work out?
Lily remembers thinking that to herself at the time. It didn't seem possible. But as she was leaving to walk back home later that morning, she paused at the darkened windows of the storefront next to the bookshop. She cupped her hands around her face and peered in through the gloom. There were a handful of mismatched tables and chairs. Eine Kante mit einem alten Register.
Einige Display-Käse mit gebrochenem Glas. Diese müssten natürlich verwendet werden. Sie konnte ein Paar Ofen in der Rückseite sehen. Wurden sie noch funktionieren, fragte sie. Und ein gechippter Mug wurde hauptsächlich in der Kante verlassen. As she walked home, she found herself going over what she would change.
If she moved a table here, some chairs over there, get a nice string of fairy lights perhaps. The twinkling of the lights against the purple evening through the glass brings Lily back from her reverie. She smiles, remembering the uncertainty of those days. She was younger, less experienced and somehow had less hope than she did these days.
Sie war mehr vorsichtig und fürchtete, dass die Dinge nicht funktionieren würden. Dass ihre Ideen, um neu zu beginnen, vollartig waren. Aber mit jedem Tag, der passierte, und jedem neuen Freund, den sie gemacht hat, begann der Welt ein bisschen mehr zu versichern. Lily nimmt das Kleid und wascht den letzten Tisch, bevor sie hinter den Kante nach der Küche fährt.
Ein Pile von Kochutensilien, Pfannen, Brötchen und großen Mixing-Böllen muss gewaschen werden. Lily schließt den Schlauch an und macht sicher, dass das Wasser die richtige Temperatur ist. Zuerst füllt sie einen Teil des Schlauchs mit kühlem Wasser und ein bisschen Blech. Der andere Teil ist dort, wo sie waschen und die Geräte waschen wird.
As the warm water runs over her hands, a sense of comfort spreads through her. She's done this simple act of washing up so many times before, and yet there's always something meditative about it. etwas Zufälliges über die Arbeit zu tun, um ihren Raum sauber und bereit für den nächsten Tag zu machen.
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Lilly nimmt einen Mixerboden und legt einen sauberen Spongebäck über ihn, fühlt den leichten Metall unter ihren Fingernippen. Sie bewegt den Spiegel in Kreisen, lässt ihren Geist wandern. Sie sprach mit den Leuten, die das Gebäude managieren, sie zu sagen, dass sie interessiert war, einen Bakery auf der Seite zu öffnen. Sie haben sie eingeladen, den Raum in Person zu sehen.
A woman met her at the back door and unlocked it when she arrived. Lily walked inside, noticing the musty smell of a place left empty for a while. Sie ging durch den Raum, rückte ihre Hände über den Unterkopf und die Türen, pausierte, um durch die großen, schmutzigen Fenster über die Hauptstraße zu schauen. Es war perfekt, dachte sie.
Aber der Preis, den sie gefragt haben, war nur aus ihrer Reichweite. Sie war nicht überrascht. Es war ein langer Schuss zu Beginn. Lilly bedankte die Frau, dass sie sie umgebracht hat. Bevor sie weg war, hat sie einen letzten Blick in den leeren Raum genommen. Eine kleine Stimme innerhalb von ihr, fragt, ob es eine Chance gab.
Lily rinsiert den Mixer und legt ihn in den Blechwasser für eine Minute oder zwei. Als sie das tut, bemerkt sie, wie ihre Fingertippe scharf sind. The bleach and the heat from the steaming cups on the coffee machine have put her hands through a lot. But it's all been worth it, Lily muses. Her rough hands are the mark of a good life. And one with so many good people in it.
Sie nimmt einen von den Muffintinten und beginnt, ihn in das saubere Wasser zu waschen.
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Unfortunately, it wasn't going to work out. The bakery just wasn't meant to be. Richard nodded his head. He understood, he said. But there was someone he wanted her to meet, before she gave up the prospect entirely. Lily raised an eyebrow. What was Richard up to, she wondered. This is Seamus, Richard said, introducing her to a man around his own age.
We've been friends since, since dinosaurs walked the earth, Seamus offered up, finishing Richards sentence. Turning to Lily, Seamus extended his hand. I hear you're interested in that little place next door that used to be a coffee shop. Lily nodded and then explained that it was unfortunately out of her price range. Seamus nodded knowingly.
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I've always thought small towns like this one need a beating heart. A place for people to come together, share stories and have a cup of coffee. We used to have that here, but since the coffee shop closed, it just hasn't been the same. Lily agreed. There was just something so comforting about a space like that. I have a proposal for you, Seamus said. Richard smiled. Lily was all ears.
She finishes washing the muffin tin and puts it into the other side of the sink. She recalls how Seamus told her that when he was younger, someone helped him get back on his feet and he'd always wanted to pay it forward. Er hat ihr mit einem Lohn geholfen, genug, um sie zu starten. So lange sie ihr Leben zurück in den Ort gebracht hat, würde er es als Geld, das gut gespart wurde, betrachten.
Die Tränen pricken die Körner ihrer Augen, und sie fühlt ein Schmerzen in ihrem Körper, als sie diese Gespräche erinnert. Wie könnte es sein, dass ein perfekter Auferstandener so geniesslich wäre? She didn't understand this town back in those days. The way everyone pulls together in times of need. She didn't know how to accept his offer, but with a little encouragement from Richard, it was done.
The bakery was hers. Sie wascht die letzten Muggen, Plätzchen und Kühlschrank, setzte sie in den Basin, um sie zu saugen. Wenn sie fertig ist, geht sie in die Espresso-Maschine. Sie entdeckt die Teile, die sie saugen muss. Der Geruch von Espresso-Beeren, der sich in ihr in die Haut bringt, wie sie es macht.
The day she got the keys to the bakery, she set down a mop and bucket at the bottom of the stairs and then sat down on the floor in the middle of the room. There was so much work to do to get it ready for opening. She took a deep breath, put her hands on her lap and made a promise to herself. She would do whatever it took. Lily was going to breathe life back into this place.
So, to find out more about becoming a Get Sleepy Premium member, visit getsleepy.com slash support or just follow the link in the show notes. Thanks so much, my friends. Before we begin, let's take some time to get nice and settled. Make sure you're in a comfortable position Where your body can relax. Now, close your eyes. I'd like you to try and think of a happy memory.
She washed and scrubbed and cleaned every corner. Sie hat die Türen verabschiedet und die Ofen schön und glatt gemacht. Kein Spot wurde unbeobachtet. Nach Wochen Arbeit und Vorbereitung ist der Tag endlich gekommen. Es war Zeit, den Bakery zu öffnen. With the dishes done, Lily unties her apron and sets it in the laundry basket she keeps at the back.
She'll wash it with the others at the end of the week. Then she finds a pen and takes out a set of cards from her bag. Sie antwortet jedem zu einem Freund und schreibt sie alle mit Liebe und Wärme diesen Winter, Lilly. Sie verbindet die Karten zu den Boxen voller Minze-Pie.
Her work for the day complete, Lily puts on her coat and hat, pulls on her gloves and collects her bag and the boxes of pies. She walks over to the strand of fairy lights and unplugs it. The bakery and its windows grow dim. The day she opened the bakery, the first thing she did was plug in that very strand of fairy lights. She remembers standing where she is now, reaching down.
And the moment they flickered to life, she knew she was exactly where she was supposed to be. Soon it would be filled with all the familiar scents of baking. Yeast and blueberries, cinnamon, cloves, ginger, and of course, coffee. All the smells that let her know this place is home, even today. Lilly lacht zu sich selbst.
Sie fliegt den Haupt-Light-Switch und die Bakery ist in der Dunkelheit, als sie ihre Weg zur Tür macht. Sie balanciert die Boxen von Minz-Pie in einer Hand. Sie holt ihre Schlüssel aus und lockt die Bakery auf mit einem Schluck und einem Klick. In the evening light, the brightly painted door seems more muted. Lily's boots crunch as she walks through the newly fallen snow.
She's the first one to walk this precise path, so she leaves a trail of footprints all on their own behind her. Sie fährt über den Berg, über alle berühmten Häuser, wo die Leute Abendessen vorbereiten. Warmes Licht rührt aus den Wänden, spült auf den schienenden Schnee. Es ist eine leckere Szene, denkt sie, begeistert von der Art, wie die Schneefelder lecker auf den Boxen von Minzenkuchen landen.
Sie übernimmt das Haus mit den zwei Katzen, die sich durch das Glas ausmachen. They look more than content to be curled up in the warmth of their home. Up ahead, she sees the outline of her house in the growing darkness. Her heart swells with happiness at the thought of a quiet meal and an evening of reading her book with a cup of tea.
Seine Fußstücke kratzen in der Frost, als sie die letzten wenigen Schritte zu ihrer Tür geht. Am Tag, als die Bakery geöffnet wurde, war es mit Regen, natürlich. Sie erinnert sich, die Tür zu öffnen, bevor sie die Ferienlichter verbindet.
Sie erinnert sich an den Geruch des ersten Brötens, den sie im Ofen gebacken hat, und an die Art und Weise, wie die Espresso-Maschine für das erste Mal eine Steine aus der Flamme ausgelöst hat. Sie kann immer noch ein Zeichen der Butterflyer in ihrem Stomach fühlen, als die Uhr klingelte, um zu öffnen. Right on the hour, the door creaked and two familiar faces appeared.
It was Richard and Seamus, her very first customers. She served them up some coffee and cinnamon buns. And as they sat together, peering out at the rain falling on Main Street, Richard turned to her. I always had a feeling you'd be here to stay, he said, giving her a pat on the hand. Welcome home. Lily steht außerhalb ihrer vorderen Tür, dankbar für so viel.
It could be a recent memory or one from long ago. So long as it brings you joy to think about it. Dein Körper und Dein Gehirn reagieren auf deine Erinnerungen. Wenn du über glückliche Erinnerungen denkst, sind die Vergnügungszentren deines Gehirns aktiviert, die die Erhöhung von Serotonin stimulieren können. Reviewing pleasant memories can also help you feel less stressed or anxious.
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So, think of that happy memory now. Play through it in your mind, noticing the way it makes you feel. Perhaps you feel a familiar warmth in your chest, or maybe your limbs feel lighter than usual. Maybe it brings a little smile to your lips or makes the corner of your eyes crinkle. Keep that feeling of connectedness, warmth, acceptance or joy in your mind as we make our way to Lily's Bakery.
Es ist eine schnelle späte Nacht im Winter. Lilly steht in der Wärme des Backofens, die Abendmacht durch die Fenster zu sehen. Hier beginnt unsere Geschichte. Snowflakes fall softly outside the bakery window. Lily watches them drift down and gently land on the layer of glistening white snow already covering the street. Die Sonne hat sich den ganzen Tag hinter dünnen Blüten versteckt.
Und jetzt fällt die Lichter schnell, als die Abendbrille kommt. Der Himmel ist ein dunkelweißer Violett und die ersten Straßenlampen haben bereits geflickert, die Wolken von goldenem Licht auf die Schnee senden. Lily arrangiert kleine Minze-Pie in Kartoffelboxen, sechs in einer Box, um sie ihren Freunden als Token der Begeisterung zu geben. Es ist ein wundervolles Jahr hier am Bakery.
Und sie will, dass die Menschen, die sie nahe haben, wissen, wie viel sie ihre Präsenz in ihrer Leben wert ist. Jeder kleine Teig passt perfekt in die Palme ihres Handes. Die Hauptkrust, die wie eine Sterne geformt ist, ist mit schmutzigem Zucker zerstört.
The crust is delicate, so she's careful to grasp each one with just her thumb and forefinger and carefully slip it into the box, ensuring it doesn't crumble. Making mince pies is a labor of love. Lilly musste vor Wochen anfangen, den kandierten Teig zu machen, der in das Minzmehl geht.
It's a simple yet time-consuming process that involves repeatedly soaking and simmering finely chopped orange and lemon peel in sugar water over a period of several days and finally leaving it to dry. Once the mixed peel was done, she made the rest of the mincemeat.
Hey Freunde, willkommen bei Get Sleepy, wo wir hören, wir relaxieren und wir schlafen. Wie immer bin ich euer Host Thomas. Thank you for listening once again. And a big Merry Christmas to all of you who celebrate it. It feels very special to be here with you. Whether you're listening after a long day of indulgence, merriment and goodwill.
Sie hat den Teig mit Reis, Körnern, Apfel, Butter, wie auch Nuss, Brandy, Limon und braunem Zucker kombiniert und für ein paar Wochen gesetzt, damit die Gerichte sich melden und sich lösen können. Und dieses Morgen war alles bereit, um die Minzpiele selbst zu machen. Zuerst hat sie alle Ingredienzen aus dem Pantry und dem Refrigerator bekommen.
Homemade minced meat, tangerines, apple, lemon, plus flour, sugar, butter, egg and powdered sugar. Then she began on the pastry crust. She cut together the flour and butter until it was crumbly like sand. Dann hat sie das Ei geworfen und es und den Zucker in die Blumen- und Buttermischung gelegt. Das wäre das Dough.
Lilly hat ein wenig Blumen auf ihrer Arbeitsfläche gelegt, um das Dough nicht zu stecken, und dann hat sie es alle zusammengefüllt. Wenn es die richtige Konsistenz war, schlug sie es in eine Plastikmaschine und setzte es in den Fridge, um zu kühlen. Während es kühlt, schlug sie die Tangerinen und Apfel. Sie zestierte dann den Limon und gab ihn in die Fruchtmischung.
Sobald das Pastel vollständig gechillt war, hat sie es von der Frisur entfernt und es mit ihrem großen Rollstuhl herausgerollt. Dann hat sie die Basen für die Pies ausgeschnitten und sie in die Böden der Muffintins gesetzt, die die perfekte Größe für die kleinen Triebe sind. Lily schnappte das Minzenmehl auf die Basen. Dann schnappte sie die Lids aus und drückte sie über das Minzenmehl.
Sternen sind ihr Lieblingspattern für den Topf. Perfekt fest, denkt sie. Sie brachte jeden Teig mit einem Eierwasch. While they were baking, she began to put together the decorative boxes. A few customers came in for coffee and an afternoon snack, while she assembled them.
Sie wusste, dass die Pies fast fertig waren, als der leckere Geruch der warmen Früchte und Päckchen aus dem Ofen rückte und den Bakery füllte. Sie setzte ihre Ofenmütze auf und entfernte die Pies, setzte sie auf einen Metall-Wire-Rack, um sie zu kühlen. As the final customers of the day were making their way out of the door, she popped the cooled pies out of the muffin tin.
They were ready to be packed into the boxes. Lily nimmt einen tiefen Atem, inhaling the warm, comforting scent of the pies. It's an aroma she always associates with the festive season. With a smile, she places the sixth pie into the last spot in her current box. Whenever a box is full, she tucks the edges of the lid into the base.
Then she unspools a length of silver ribbon, cuts just the right amount and fits it around the box. She secures it with an elegant bow that she ties herself. Sie hat von einem Freund vor Jahren gelernt, wie man diese Art von Kugel anzieht. Und sie hat es seitdem als ein kleines Geschenk verwendet. Es ist ein extra Touch, das ein Geschenk immer mehr speziell macht, denkt sie.
Or perhaps you've pressed play a day or two after the dust has settled on the celebrations. Which I quite understand if so. But we wanted to mark the occasion with a very special treat for all of you. We're taking our ninth visit to one of the coziest places we know, Lily's Rainy Day Bakery.
She considers all the people she'll give boxes to this year. There's Rose, Quincy and Maima, Elisa and her twins, and Seamus, of course. Simon at the bookshop will receive one for the first time. She hopes he likes mince pies too. Sie legt sie alle in eine Stacke am weitesten Ende des Kantees. Es ist Zeit, sich zu sauber zu machen.
Sie nimmt eine Kleidung von unter dem großen Sink und wascht die Kante-Töne. One by one, she makes her way around each of the tables in the bakery and wipes them clean. She pauses by the window, admiring how the fairy lights reflect on the glass and make it look like hundreds of bright stars are shining in the snow outside.
Too bad. Too sad. By that sugar egg roll over there. My little sugar egg roll.
Possibly. I don't know. Who knows?
It looked pretty cool, though.
It is... It'll be in the bio.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, super good.
Is that here? Could you see that in Florida or what? This was in Turks and Caicos. Oh, wow. Turks and Caicos.
What? Nothing. I was just making a joke. Oh. What? I don't know. I was just looking at you.
Yeah. How big was this thing? 20 feet. Because it did not look like that.
Yeah.
And you know that's not China. It's like, yeah, it's like their embassy. Who else does it? Wendy's does that too. They take in people.
No, they're talking about the cup sizes. Yeah.
Thou shalt not move that with your brain. Never again. Just mountains with faith. That's the only reason I haven't done it.
Texburg. Kecksburg. Kecksburg.
She's like, Hey, let's ask more questions. That's the lesson today.
Scary and brutal.
You don't want to do it? No. You have to do it.
Forever, dude. Oh, did you see this? It's Question Corner, Question Corner, Question Corner with Lily, where the questions are fresh on her mind.
I had to give her the questions. No, it was a really good question. Forget it. Men in black.
Yeah. Security risk.
Luck, lady, lady luck. Lady luck.
Thank you.
That's what, that's, that's what I'm going to be.
It's like, thanks. Okay. Your family. The shower must be a nightmare, dude. Oh, my gosh.
For me. We'll make it quick. I'll be like a band-aid.
That's crazy, bro.
I don't know how we're ever going to recover from this.
That is so good.
Parts of it.
So good, though. What a great story. Unless you're Mormon, then you probably won't like that show. The Mormons have been going through it with documentaries and movies this year. It's kind of crazy. Give us a break! Pick on someone else, please!
No, I did.
What do I do with my hands? Just keep them normal. Just keep them down. I don't even understand what's happening anymore, Lil. Who are you?
What do you mean what am I talking about? What are you talking about?
Oh, well, we all don't like it! You think we like having these hard conversations? Do you think we like asking hard questions?
It doesn't whistle. The LDS church? Uh-huh. Weird. That's crazy. I mean, good for them, I guess. Speaking of Mormons, Mothman. Yeah.
Yeah. You said 250 years ago almost.
But apparently multiple people encountered this injured cold guy. Oh, and so they're saying, other people are saying they saw this guy.
Anyways. We're going to ask the questions anyway.
It's literally making me sick. It's a good segue into the question. Bizzle?
Ginormous. Like, come on.
Do you hear the echo too? That was cool!
They're not human.
How do you explain your strange behavior then?
You absolutely nailed it right over the pole play.
Bye-bye, mister. We don't care about you. Also, good news. You don't have a house anymore. We're closed on.
And you think that's okay? No. She fully supports it, sounds like.
I thought this... This next... This next... This year was going to be... Good.
You do not have the right to laugh. No, she thinks this is hilarious.
This is a shame. This is really a big fat bummer.
Don't yell at my wife. I was just doing what you were doing. I can yell at her. Okay, can you just tell her things for a minute? Can I tell you things that you can yell at her? Yeah. Okay, just tell her. You got to do better in general, Lil.
He yelled at her. I was just kidding. He was just kidding.
He was just kidding. He was just kidding. Chill out. No, I didn't say that.
That took you a lot of courage to say that.
What's the fortune cookie voice?
Oh.
I'll take a picture.
Das ist wahr. Nein, die Gefängnisse würden leer sein, wenn wir nur Quilten gelernt hätten.
Hello? Hello, who is this?
Hold on.
There's a full gate of bells.
Oh, no!
Ja, das ist ziemlich cool.
Wir müssen den Terror stoppen.
Bis zum nächsten Mal.
Nice.
What the heck?
I feel terrible.
Finger spelling.
Because he could read the dad's mind.
It was like Texas, right?
Like what?
I thought about the hills with... Have eyes? No, that show from the early 2000s.
Why is he there?
Yeah, like he could read the thing if he was reading his mom's mind.
So it has nothing to do with physical proximity. It has everything to do with this mental space.
That's insane.
I would be curious.
Think. I'm thinking. About.
Stop it. I can't think of it. Forget it.
That was like Ada when she ate that whole bag of M&M's. She said, look what came out of my mouth. That was really funny.
my telepathy from being able to fully work it makes you wonder if like these silent monks in the hills yeah so it's literally just thinking if they ever get that ability i remember what i was gonna say does she ever in her episodes i would be curious if they did a brain scan on one of those kids okay yeah while they're using it to see what parts of the brain illuminate
yeah dude imagine the i love you like that oh my gosh like healed oh yeah for real complete 180 that's crazy yeah but she felt a lot of regret though too right because he was he had been trapped basically and yeah not able to communicate at all which he could have been the whole time if she knew like the resources we're living in a time of transition you know because even where we're at right now is leagues away from where we were
30 years ago with children with autism you know and so i think in our lifetimes and then in our children's lifetimes we're going to see such a expanse of resources for for people like that
Yeah.
And not only will these people, like these people, that's a gift. Yeah. That's the thing.
No, I get what you're saying, but like, I mean, 30 years ago, that's exactly what, you know, but now they're going to be, consider when this stuff is more acknowledged.
Like, what kind of jobs these people could have? Look, and now I'm exploiting them.
They could be in positions of authority. They're experts on something that we have nothing about.
Wow. You already know because you and Pico speak.
Yeah, Hispanic.
Let me take it.
Mom influencer. Like the original mom influencer.
Family vlogger. Ruby Frankie. mom of six her channel was called eight passengers and uh every nightmare you can imagine taking place mom of six mom of six eight passengers so husband and wife are the other two well the driver wouldn't be a passenger right it's not very clever she's not super clever okay um hung up already and they yeah it gets super good they're part of the Mormon church.
I know. And, yeah, I mean, basically, like, exploitation of children in the way that they were, like, you know, she was using them to proper channel up, and they were not willing participants. And, Josh, you take it over now. Okay.
Like the uncut.
Jodi Hildebrandt.
She's a psychologist, but then you find out later she actually is not educated.
She would do a lot of like marriage counseling style stuff. And it was like Connections was the name of it. But really, she was just like a really burnt, hurt woman, divorced.
Actually, exactly.
Like literally hates men.
And then the mom of six is her support person.
He has to go find a place to live. To nowhere. And she says, you can never contact me again. You can never reach out to me again. The mom says that to him.
And she starts verbally abusing the husband who goes to these weekly seminars.
Like his neighbors, his friends.
She called Kevin and she's like, hey, there are these lies coming out. The police have our kids. And I just can't even imagine what they're lying to them about right now. And she's like, they are demon possessed. But she, they were so part of this story.
crazy radical sect of whatever Mormonism whatever it was plus this psychology thing that they were like that demon possession became a very real and like like it was happening a lot in their life threat yeah yeah yeah and so he was like bought in he's like no way they're demon possessed or whatever immediately but he also you could tell that she had been she had been mentally and emotionally abusing him probably from the beginning because
I mean, even now after this, he's like, I love her.
No, but I do think that she was influenced by something terrible. Because, I mean, to begin with, she had horrible behaviors.
I remember the other day that I've always had big reactions to vitamins. Because as a kid, my mom gave me a vitamin one time, like a Flintstone or something. And I remember being like...
No, no, I agree. That's what I'm saying.
No, I think you should.
That's fair.
Yeah. And that's when her deep end really started was she was making a video and the sun piped in and they had discovered, the channel discovered that she had taken away his bed and his room for seven months. He was sleeping in the basement on a beanbag for seven months for something he acted out about.
And immediately they're like, red flag, child abuse. And she basically gets canceled and like loses all of her sponsorships and stuff like that. So she takes this deep dive of like, I'm this rock solid mom that believes in whatever. And-
I love vegetables. I'm very pro-vegetable.
Did you see it? Everyone saw it. I think I do that all the time. Slow-mo. Because I didn't even process that I did that. I think I'm procrastinating myself. First, look at this.
A fan named Aubrey sent it to me. No way. And she crocheted me a bandana thing.
How sick is that? It literally has the hand part where he's like.
Yeah, that's a winner. No, this is the best thing ever. That is pretty cool. And I will say, if you guys ever want to be. You get everything, Josh. Yeah.
You get the most portraits done.
Oh, my gosh. Wow. It's Magic Mind. Magic Mind.
She was laughing at me. At my fear.
Okay. I want to know, if you were in the zombie apocalypse, what would your weapon of choice be? And recall that resources are finite. And this question is in honor of The Last of Us coming out this month, season two.
Next month?
You're a liar.
You said it was coming out like two weekends ago. The Last of Us.
I want like a spear.
No. A tank. A tank. What were you going to say?
That doesn't count. It's going to be real.
You said it was limitless. I said resources are finite.
Yeah, realistic.
That seems inconvenient, Andy. How are you going to carry that in your backpack?
And you said flamethrower, but gas is a precious resource, too.
But remember, you also have to be able to decapitate. Zombies can only die from decapitation.
Maybe a samurai sword. That changes everything.
It just doesn't... It's not plausible, Joshua.
Generally, you have to have hand-to-hand combat with these zombies.
I'll tell you, I've probably got a lot of time on my hands in the zombie apocalypse so I can train.
Oh, true.
And you'll look like Gimli. Oh, you already do. That would be cool, Dad. And my hatchet.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh my gosh. That can't be real.
That's a demon.
My cousin had a tapeworm one time.
I don't think so.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Oh my gosh! Wait a second.
Dude! Stop!
He's so aggressive.
Yes.
I actually, though, I know the song, not from sound, but because my mom talks about it all the time.
Yeah. I know.
It's like short people have no reason to live, right?
She's short, right?
How tall are you? 5'3".
She's 5'4".
Hey, watch it.
Speaking of pediatricians, Jane has something on her toe.
Little Rascals as a whole is nuts.
Like there's a lot of bad stuff in there.
We have been torturing her. Torturing her. Trying to get this toenail fixed.
Thanks for the heads up, by the way.
I said thanks for the heads up. He knew about it.
That was perfect.
He's gatekeeping these time changes. Bet you eat raw food too, huh?
Nineveh? No.
Was Jonah supposed to go to Nineveh or Tarshish?
When you draw the line and just say this needs to be surgically done.
Oh my gosh. Wow.
Okay.
If you're trying to kill somebody.
Which we always do.
Wow. Because Sumerian is so difficult, isn't it?
Yeah. All we should do is put the folks from the telepathy tapes on it.
Do you see what I did there? Yes, I saw what you did there. Did you see what I did there? Speaking of poops, barfing, and grown toenails. Do you want a song that doesn't have to do with any of those? Or it could be related to all. Those things. Okay. Let's begin. Right now. Let's begin. Let's begin. All right.
Yeah, and Babylon is there, too. Arabian Nights.
Arabian Day. The Lost Library of Nineveh. Up in flames is under a McDonald's now.
You know what's interesting that we didn't talk about from the Ruby Frankie thing?
Is that when Jodi Hildebrandt went back to her house before she moved in with Ruby, they went to go try to figure out what's going on with these evil spirits. And she said, there's a handprint at the top of my window. Oh, yeah. And mind you, these people are in the desert of Utah, remote.
Do you think? How did that handbrake get over there?
Well, she was like an instrument for evil because she was really breaking up a lot of people's marriages and stuff like that.
I don't think so.
Like what CERN is doing or something?
So you're telling me we can't use hairspray, but they can shoot bombs off?
Could you imagine being like, guys, it wasn't us. It was aliens.
It's not a bad idea to create a weapon against all that spooky stuff, but that doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah, but I just think that's because they're nosy.
was like by this fire weapon from the sky and it's like yeah i don't know fast sudden really hot heat yeah i think they're just bearing witness to our super fledgling society and the anabomb might just be like one next step into propelling us into a new technological era
That's the reason why we're Mongolian chanting.
That was great.
I don't know that light is affected by gravity.
Everything's affected by gravity.
In the freezer?
I'm not going to make fun of you because I thought the same thing.
I would like a Gregorian chant.
That's really strange.
Yeah, so it was actually frozen.
Let's go get a buried slush, please.
I know, and she is a legal justice person?
A consultant.
She is. She has more experience than any of us.
I feel like there would be a bias, like an immediate bias.
My friend from high school, her dad handcuffed her. What? Isn't that crazy? That's pretty dope. I know.
This is a citizen's arrest.
Weird.
I actually don't know enough about it. So I do. I want you to tell me.
Wow, his pace has really picked up.
That's a movie you guys can go see in the movie theater.
Zombie weapon.
I am Halo. Halo. Am I a robot or an alien? I don't know.
What are you saying? Wow. I loved it.
Wow. Very good, guys.
Are you sick?
Oh, no.
I heard you throwed up.
I have to say yes. What?
That's Trinity.
No.
No.
Are you sick?
Have you ever been witnessing to somebody and they're like, wait a minute, Jesus is God? You're like, oh boy. Yes.
Sit down for a minute.
You ever been witnessing to somebody and you're presenting the gospel and you're like, you are a sinner. Jesus sacrificed himself. And as long as you believe in him, you're covered. And then you're like, yeah, God sent himself in the form of his son to save you. And they go, wait, wait a minute. You're like, wow. Yeah. Big one.
I have this thing where if somebody around me gets a stomach bug, I immediately start showing symptoms.
It's really good.
Christmas time is here. Christmas time, I fear. Who's that man staring back at me? That's not Santa Claus, I fear. I'm paralyzed in fear. From Nectar.
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Oh, yeah.
Homeless man.
Yeah. Guys want chicken fingers? There's no way you were barefoot. I was definitely barefoot. That's what I'm saying.
Instead of paying $160, you'll pay $144. And you'll get to hug Mickey. Yay!
I don't know. Is there a genie in here? Well, there's got to be a better way. The one wish I ask for, genie, is to have the mental performance to make it through the rest of this podcast. Where'd that come from?
Ew. Yeah.
And here's what I beat. Ahem. Ahem. Oh my. Is it really time? I think it is. Oh, and you're hazard real.
Yeah. Ah, that sounded cool, right? She was right. Yeah, she was right.
Yeah.
They are aliens. Wow. They disturb you. If any of you know what these are. Multi-decade UAP. Dolphins are aliens. You're going to have a heart attack when you see your eyes broken. Bottlenose.
Oh, the dolphin thing.
Dolphin silence. Ah!
What did we do tomorrow?
Nope, but they can.
Well, yeah. Well, it's just like for us. Counties can't be trusted. Like, welcome to County Fair. This is where you get your tickets. Come on in. How much is it? Oh, two. Okay, it's $20. Go on in. Yep.
more scrooge mcpoison yeah for real yeah say that again i couldn't say that scrooge mcpoison thank you well guys i guess you heard it here first lily wants to das gift you welcome to the show
Mogadishu.
Actually, it's a spectrum.
It's spectrum!
And that one I saw, I was like, yeah, El Cocorocho? No, thank you. That's pretty crazy. I wonder what the lore was in how they established a holiday like that. They're like, for sure this will help. Right?
And jump over your baby.
In the street. And if you don't do it, you don't care about your infant.
If it sounds crazy, Andrew will yell at you.
And since you believe in, like, the flattery of three minutes.
I am old. Where were you during 9-11?
Yeah, it's more common.
I suppose my question would be, though, too, if they are drones, what are you guys doing? Are you surveilling us now?
We're here. Let's go.
Well, I mean, obviously.
I don't know where I think you were going to say that. I was thinking Shambhala.
Or it sounds like that place, you know, where we talked about how the lake could have been like an energy conductor.
Correct. I can't stop laughing.
No way.
Oh, my gosh. So, wait, that means, hold on a second. He was underground that whole time?
Oh, really? Yeah. The highest up in elevation?
Wow.
Watch it.
Yeah.
Like what is in Antarctica? No, seriously.
Josh, you would be so sick. You would get like... You could fly in. Irreparably sick.
Isn't that weird? Yeah, it's true.
they made a movie out of it yeah really yeah there's world war three and it was russians and americans and they literally fought each other on the international space station they fight each other yeah but they're scientists they're not warriors hey no when countries die for the country that's crazy that's quite the assertion right there there's no space and no rules in space that's right there's no rules in space who commandeered the international space station who wins
Don't spoil it.
Or it was A24 and Russia wins.
Is it Le Macaron?
Okay. Which I don't understand that.
Oh, wow.
Yeah. But...
Yeah, it's true.
I'm fearful that this last election, we don't usually talk politics on this show.
Yeah, I'm being careful. I think that this last election was shockingly in one direction to where it makes me suspicious. Does that make sense?
Yeah.
No, I know. That's exactly what I was going to say. That's I guess what I'm fearful of is like there was this great plan in his first term. And then COVID was manufactured, they're now saying. Yeah. Openly. Which is crazy. In media. Yeah. Which is so crazy. And so I'm just anxious, like, what's next? You know, like, is he even going to get started? Because what's going to follow through?
Whoa, Lily's here. Lily's here. What happened?
I'm back.
She's better. How old is the kid?
Yeah, she's better. She was very sick. It was terrible.
I'm back.
Nice.
I don't know, man.
Duck Tape.
Okay, back to the deep state comment that you made about Trump's and also Trump's appointees. Did you guys see that Kash Patel was appointed to run the FBI? And did you see his interview about it? He goes, the first thing I'm doing when I'm getting in there is I'm dismantling the deep state and I'm sending all those guys. It's like a thousand people that work in the FBI office.
It's like I'm sending them out to go be cops and go arrest all these murderers and stuff. Why are we paying a thousand people to do all this crazy stuff? He called it the deep state, literally.
I don't know.
We'll make some crooked.
I get what you're saying.
No.
No, thank you.
Oh, yeah. You know the blue stuff? What do they call it? I forget.
I know. Okay, I've really been working hard on my list. Sam's like, what? Okay, if you had to wash, take your brain out of your skull. This better be real good, Lil. If you had to take your brain out of your skull to wash it, it's dirty. Are you using hot or cold water?
I've never asked this question before.
Then you get a brain freeze, literally.
I think you can feel the temperature because your stem is still attached.
No, but bacteria or hot water is also disinfecting.
Yeah.
Someone did say that they would wash it with 7-Up. Ew. This is gross.
Hey.
Anyway, that's my point.
I have a lot of questions. If that wasn't very good, I have more.
Oh, gosh.
Okay, what is it?
I bet.
It was scary.
Beat them up? Yes. What? Why? This is horrible.
Oh, they just spank them?
Oh, okay.
Man, that is silly.
Yeah.
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
Why?
Scary nightmare.
No.
Come on. Kelsey will do it. I'm not interested. Scary.
Right now? Right now? Right now. Right now.
Did you send it to Sam?
I believe you.
Dude. Crazy. You see this?
What do they use that for? Is that, like, to resuscitate fainters or something? No, dead people. Dead people! Resurrect dead people. This sounds about right.
It was the bullet I saw.
Yeah, seriously.
No, seriously.
Yeah. In my throat.
What?
No, that's so interesting. They do say that. Really? I've never heard that.
Crazy. I believe that. Crazy.
Did you see, though, that the CEO of McDonald's came out and said that they're bringing back the snack wrap? And it was like, he's trying to save his life right now. The what? The CEO of McDonald's said they're bringing back the snack wrap.
Yeah, there's like a cult following for it. It's like an older menu item. It's like the McRib kind of. But everybody's like, they're after CEOs in this. You want the snack wrap?
McRib all year long.
Wasn't the early stages of Planned Parenthood, weren't they practicing eugenics on Puerto Rico?
Okay.
Oh, less methane gas, right? Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
So good.
You cut me off on one line.
I did, yeah. It was a roller coaster. I didn't know where you were going. I love that you commented on Notre Dame. Did you see what they finished?
Oh, did they?
A billion dollars. Crazy.
Notre Dame. Very good.
All right.
That never gets easier.
I know.
I think you guys are really enjoying it.
What the heck, man? Oh, come on, man. Man. That was too pretty.
Anybody got a cigarette?
Oh, yeah. How does it feel? To go down a hole, to complete unknown. No. Like a rolling stone.
We got an ad. We got an ad. Don't go anywhere.
How many UFOs fly in the sky before they call them a drone? I get you. You used to talk about many other things. Bang it out. What? There are two words in there. People say we mumble. All those people, like old people, they're like, mumble rap. It's like, did you hear Bob Dylan?
Oh, because you're dead.
And it's like, but the chorus.
Andrew. Andrew. It's got a reel. He's going to show us right now. Right now. Right now. Right now. Okay. It's not the reel. Yeah, you. Yeah, you. That was good. Oh, my gosh. See? All right. Man.
Are you stressed, pal?
I'll tell you something though.
Yeah.
That's so funny. That is funny. I'm like... Daddy peaches.
Yes.
Wow. Generation Beta.
That is incredible.
We all... That was the best.
Too bad.
The part that the fans love?
This is your chance.
Mm-hmm.
We do.
I never said that.
No, because you made this up and it seems like you want that.
Because you don't care. I loved her so much I became one.
That's why?
I just saw your girls. Everyone's so tamed.
Yes.
Yeah.
Are we going to get into that a little bit on this show?
Let's talk about it.
Oh, boy.
I'm too excited.
I know.
I would have become a mermaid. You would have found me as a mermaid. Did you guys speak in your sailboats? Stop it. That's not what it would look like.
Well, dude, remember when we were on the airplane? Yeah.
Coming back from England.
And they were reading our faces, and it's like, when have you ever even read my face?
She can't swim. Shut up.
That's great. Oh, yeah, you walk into a store, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Not good.
What do you mean?
Oh, so we already have it.
Mine still says Andrew's address on it.
Okay, listen.
I did. I did not know. I saw the weird dancing video.
Hello, Josh.
Dude, he's in the water.
Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Listen, I feel like I'm going to throw up. I had too much caffeine and vitamins. John, listen, did you guys ever see that guy? It was like a year ago. This is really inspiring. It's like a Hope Corps story.
Dude, the alligators. I feel like the alligators are just like, I mean, they're in mass right now.
Mutant gators.
I was like, I think I'd be rad. It's like Moby Dick, but Floridian.
His name is Taylor with Phoenix. I just looked up his handle. Like a year ago, he posted, he's like, I work at like Denny's or something.
yeah my dad will be like you know like he's like so that way and he's like there's no such thing as like global war he's like it's called climate change our earth has changed a million times or whatever that's right i'm on board with that i'm on board with that too but we have to have some kind of impact our the way that we live has had an impact well i think just environmentally oh yeah i don't think we are affecting weather patterns though we are though with
Tire shop. And he's like, I literally hate my life.
What did they take out?
Why?
And he's like, I'm so miserable. This sucks. It's not what life is supposed to be about.
And I saw that.
We're getting so played, you guys.
A year late, he's like, I'm going to save up and I'm going to buy a sailboat and I'm going to sail the world.
Exactly.
So quoting the prophet Isaiah in relation to Christ is anti-Semitic?
No, but anti-Semitic, that's the thing about the direction we're going in. I know this is going to get canceled, but anti-Semitic is a really strong word.
Oh, I see.
Exactly.
And then a year later, he posts, he did it.
Stop it.
He did.
In the passion, when he steps on the snake's head too. And the fulfillment of what was said in Genesis.
Such a good movie.
Right now.
Beginning. Hopefully he makes it. Let's follow him. Make sure he makes it. What is his name? Sailing with Phoenix. Sailing with Phoenix. You should show the video down. Do you want it? I have it right here. That's wild. I'll show you guys. I have it.
Accent, yeah.
Doesn't this sound nice?
Good donut. You didn't need to get me one. I'm over here choking on my vitamins. You didn't need to get me a donut.
Dude, they're tasty, but it's giving me acid reflux because I got puke right here.
But a donut will help.
I know. We're just so eager.
Do you want to skip my segment? Because my question's not that good.
It was just having fun in Atlanta with all your boyfriends and just hanging out. It was great.
That's so sweet. You know, Ruth is a really good girl's name.
Oh, sick. Me too.
Lily with the questions on the first row of the mic. Okay, I have like two questions I'm going to start with. The first less good question, and then we'll move on to the other one. Just because I was driving around today and I thought about this and I wanted to know from you guys, what is your most favorite car you've ever owned?
I don't know what that means. It was blue?
Oh, cool.
And that was freedom.
Dude, and with your wooden truck bed.
Oh my gosh, you drive by town. Hey, boys.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm going to hurl.
11 years. It's amazing.
Mine was most assuredly my green convertible bug.
I know. I drove it forever. It was my favorite car. And I even loved it so much that when we, I had to get rid of it when we had kids because they wouldn't fit in there. And I'm like, maybe we should keep it and they could turn it into a jungle gym.
Five million dollars is a lot of money. I don't want to know anything about my future because I'm going to overthink. I'm going to ruminate. What if my future is bad?
Five seconds from right this second?
Yeah.
That makes sense.
We're just greedy. Greedy. Greedy.
Josh and I were just talking about it the other day. It's like it is so weird that our skeleton is all covered up except for our teeth are just our skeleton poking out.
I hate just the fact that I'm a big bag of organs.
Yeah.
Yeah, flare ups.
It's like the knowing thing.
The apocalypse is happening.
What's going on?
Why would they want to attack Portugal?
So there's nothing politically happening with Portugal right now that they would want to attack it.
Did you see all the dumb critiques I saved when it was like... So this is really... It's really all because of the phones. That's why we're... And they were like, they didn't go to work all day. They weren't at work. Work's the problem.
Wait, that's so smart. You just wind it up and it generates electricity?
Josh, we're starving. The kids haven't ate. Hold on. Please power the oven.
Cool.
Pardon?
All this money is disappearing. They can't account for it.
Right.
Yeah. Who's getting selected? Is this why they're starting this whole?
I see.
Yeah.
I know. Yeah, seriously. I'll take the hard way. It's literally ruled by Bill Gates. Yeah. He's the king.
It's confirmed.
Needs to be 500 million. Yeah, it's crazy.
You lived in like a mountain house by yourself, secluded.
Yeah, I guess I would do it if I were president, only because it's like we have to ensure the survival of the human race.
But then here's the question. Who's surviving?
Who's on these lists? And that's the thing.
I know. And like knowing that the rest of your family isn't going to survive it. Like that's painful.
That's true.
Did he just out the president's escape route?
I don't know.
They're probably using those frequencies to move the rock and stuff like that. The melting of the rock? Yeah, we melt that rock.
So it was like, no problem. They did it on a Tuesday.
It was an impossible choice no matter what you were doing, I thought.
I loved it. We were newlyweds.
How...
With this whole data thing, I just have a question, though, too. Everybody's like, I'm so mad at Mark Zuckerberg. He's stealing all my data. Why do we care?
Because they're going to sell me stuff? That's what I'm worried about?
I literally can't go 24 hours inside my house.
So no.
Yeah.
This is him.
It's gone. It does say in Revelation, if they say I come from the desert, it's not me.
He is an Egyptian American. Yeah.
So not the desert.
Yeah.
I said, use your wisdom.
We are the least wise people.
I can get on board with that, though. Okay.
Dude, what would happen if I just booted right now on this couch?
I took my vitamins. I ate like a little muffin.
It's amazing. It's kind of crazy. We just watched Ben-Hur, the original Ben-Hur. It's awesome.
No.
It's about a guy named Judah Ben-Hur, and he's a Jewish man that is oppressed by the Romans. Okay. Living in, where were they? Judea?
It's like a four-hour movie. We took us like three days to get through it. But what's so interesting about the movie is that it's his epic. Like he's just like this epic dude. Yeah. But it's while all that is happening, the ministry of Christ is taking place.
Yeah.
I'm eating this thing. It's not helping because it tastes terrible. Yeah, it's probably expired as well. Oh, really? It's probably expired. Oh, come on.
You should try staying awake one time and watching it. Do people do that?
Oh, my gosh. When was this? Let this happen to me. And basically...
Don't tell anybody. Don't tell anyone. Keep your mouth shut.
It's got like 3,000% of her vitamin B. You know what else is making me really sick? Josh and I started our... Yeah, tell me about this cleanse that you're doing.
Yeah, just delete the reel. I'm not going to show it.
This is Korean.
Dude, Jane Goodall believes in Sasquatch.
Yeah. Yeah, dude. Good.
She's almost there. She's almost on the cryptid team. Exactly.
Yeah.
What is going on?
That's how you guys get away with so much in here. Like, yeah, yeah. Because it's your dad's sense of humor. Yeah.
Yeah, we're doing a parasite, heavy metal, and candida cleanse.
Yeah. Do you know about him? Like a super famous psychiatrist.
Yeah, it's strange.
We're literally thinking like worms over here.
What would you be doing if your dad was like, you know, he said, Josh, come move back here and help me start this business. And you would have said, no, I'm not interested. What would you be doing right now?
Oh, it's my friend. I made a park friend. Her name is Raquel. She's super cool. Her and her husband own a nursery. I made her friend. Kelsey was there. Plant nursery. Plant nursery. And she was like, I have so many worms. She constantly has worms. So do her children and stuff. But I think it's because they grow things. They were like always outside in the dirt.
They can prescribe medicine.
You have to go to more schooling to become a psychiatrist. So you're more learned.
Yeah. No, you're right.
And plagued by weird circumstances. Yeah.
Thinking about it is making me want to throw up anymore. Anyway, they do, like, detoxes all the time. Yeah. And she was doing a really hardcore one, not the one we're doing. Like, one that's just, like, blasts these worms. And one of them crawled up her throat. Bro.
It's unreal. Yeah.
You talk about the outcast, but to me, what is more sinister and spooky is what was kept. You know, what we implement now in some of these therapies and counselings. And we had seen a video the other day and it was criticizing, was it Freud against Jung? Or who was Jung?
It was Freud against somebody else. It was another person that was another psychiatrist that was big at the time. And basically his ideas were kind of thrown out the window and Freud's ideas took place in a lot of like the modern day therapies and stuff like that. And they were complete inverses. Freud's being dark, ugly, explore this trauma, explore this trauma.
And the other one saying, liberate yourself from this trauma. This trauma doesn't define you. Yeah.
and grow from it and instead i mean you think about therapies and stuff like that and when you find a therapist and you go through counseling i mean you're there and you feel better for a little bit but where where are the real tools i mean and people find relief obviously but like where it's it's so hard to find tools to get you from this place to that place you know it's just like an ongoing keeping you there over discussing over amplifying your trauma
I don't. She saw it coming. But apparently.
Laying it at the feet of the cross and saying goodbye.
Yeah, exactly. Let's explore how you got here. How did you become a prostitute?
They just do it. It's a common practice. Like, when you see a pediatrician, they'll just give your kid a detox. Yeah. Then you just take a supplement or something like what you do with your dog.
That's so weird. It was all mom-related. It was so weird.
Mental health still is everything. Okay. I have to be so bad. I'm leaving you guys.
I mean, we're animals.
Oh, no.
Well, you do that.
So what we're starting with, so the kit we got is like a pretty gentle kit. And you start with something called the gutty. It's called gutty. And you put it in a glass of water.
It's an ordeal every morning trying to get that thing down.
Yeah.
You said you were going to go build sailboats in Boston.
Was that the thing he does? Yeah. Are you crying?
That's beautiful.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, he's on me. I'm going to puke.
If you yell at me, I'm going to throw up.
It's like we're here.
Don't please it. I'm a scream puker.
Irisch. Oh, okay. Flingerhanger. What are some of the words you've learned?
Hey, happy birthday!
Alright, guys.
Hey, come here.
This is so crazy because we just got Ruslan. Shout out Ruslan. Texted us and he was like, hey, you guys are famous now.
No.
What will kill me has not yet been born. 136, ladies and gentlemen, 136.
In the mind. It reminds me of the, have you heard of that whole thing? Like if everyone had a rock and paper scissors competition in the world, it would only take three, the winner would only have to win 33 times. Whoa. Isn't that crazy? Like the process of elimination, it just, you would only have to go 33, you'd only have to win 33 rounds. That's crazy.
True.
Friendship. Yeah. Yeah. Joy. Humanity. The thrill. The thrill of adventure. My head's really scattered today.
Yeah, that's scary. I don't like that. I want one of those in my room, though.
Very doomy.
Google smart. No one likes the Google kid. Come on.
Cool. Thanks. See you later. Mom, can you go pick me up?
Crazy inventions. It's always the wildest, the wildest of times.
Okay.
To me, I guess I don't understand it because that just sounds like I'm on a Google Doc. Someone could be editing it exactly as the same time I'm doing it. We did it in marketing all the time. I obviously don't understand it. We're asking questions. I'm trying to figure it out. Are you shooting it down already though?
Yeah, that's such a hard idea to comprehend. How do we do that? And then what's the next step? Are they going to actually try to do physical matter?
That's where I'm confused.
You want to take it? Yeah. I mean, it's really just making sure that those two, those methods are, you know, conjoined at the same time and making sure they're all in sync. Whether, you know, you're looking at it from like a caliber aspect of it through like cosmic wave. Like harmonious energy.
No. No. Oh, my gosh. No. No.
This is just like D on Always Sunny. She does that too.
We actually figured it out.
That thing looks so sick, dude. I'm looking it up.
Okay.
fighter jet whatever in existence I want to see videos of this thing man also can we just come up with cooler names like no disrespect to the president but golly it's like we have all these cars that have such cool you know interesting come up with something yeah like Cybertruck that's so cool yeah it's kind of cool are you joking yeah I'm joking Cybertruck is a cool name there's nothing cool about that car but yeah like maybe like the name is cool like Falcon Falcon do we already have one of those
Okay, enough of the birds. A blue-breasted finch. No, we're just not. We're getting farther away, though.
Yeah.
The math adds up. By the way, did you see you have cookies with your face on it in the kitchen? Oh, that's cool.
I have no idea. They were just in the kitchen. It's scary looking a little bit.
It tastes like you do.
It looks really cool, though. I think I'm all for using taxpayers' money to go towards that, as long as we get to drive it once.
Oh, my gosh.
Just let me drive it around. Everyone gets five minutes. Or a raffle. It's a raffle. Yeah. I mean, you can control it. I don't have to actually fly it. Yeah. I sit in there. You control it.
Looking toward the future, seeing that we're all going to die. Things are going to blow us up. Cybertrucks are on fire.
They said that was Tesla, though.
Sorry, what?
Browser. This is super, super crazy because a lot of people saw it, right? Like it was all over Europe. Yeah. I don't believe it was SpaceX, though.
Yeah. Oh, no.
Yeah, I mean, look at that. I mean, that's insane. Was it 100% confirmed that it was SpaceX? I mean, that's what everyone's saying. That's weird, man. That's so symmetrical, too. Like, it's really strange.
Yeah. I saw that when it was going viral and I just couldn't comprehend like what I was looking at. It looked just like a, almost like a skylight or something.
Oh, my goodness. She's crawling on top of your car. What is she doing that for? Is this some type of witch ritual or something? On the windshield? What the heck? Did she lock the keys in the car?
Just like a Slurpee. Just like a Slurpee.
What if my plasma is running SpaceX right now?
That's a flippin' dinosaur, dude.
It looks like if Elon was a... It looks like if Elon was just a superhero, that's what he would put up in the sky. He's just like, Elon's here.
What'd he do? What?
it's not what's happening why would he do that i don't know it's like dude we've seen your falcon land back on earth that's not impressive you have to like when you've done everything just to impress all the people in the world like you just got to go back to fork humor that's insane That's crazy. He's showing everyone.
This is really cool. In the next scene, they pan back to him. He just has a spoon on his nose.
I think it's doable. He's got time. Now we're on Daily Mail, dude. Oh, yeah. The sky's the freaking limit.
Yeah. You guys see that KFC ad? What? KFC. Which one?
Oh, brother. This is weird.
It's weird. Did you see that firefighter's mustache? Yeah. It's pretty curry.
Great. I don't know why.
Oh, I guess he did. I thought they were mourning the mustache or something.
That's a bummer. Died being a firefighter.
I'm not sure. Top comment says this man spoke for the trees.
What's happening?
33. What is happening? What is this? This is like out of Hereditary.
I don't get this.
Okay. Is it gravy?
It's gravy? What is happening? This is like that trend, like, don't let them know your next move. This is it.
Yeah, but we all know you love the pug. Puggy monkey baby. Puggy monkey baby, yeah. But there was no real humor in it. No. There's no real message. I don't know. Maybe there is obviously a message, but that's strange. Believe in chicken. It looked good.
I don't know. I don't see it as a baptism, I guess. She was using him like a surfboard at one point. I guess, yeah. Weird stuff. I would love to have a gravy baptism. That's actually how I want to be buried.
That's true. 11 herbs and spices. Yeah. What are those? Herbs? Is it just a guy named Herb? Oh. You've seen that, right? On their Twitter account, KFC only follows 11 people. And it's like, no, it's 11 guys named Herb.
Why'd you even take it off?
They're pushing out.
25 wings. So that's 12 and a half. 12 and a half chickens.
Isn't that psycho?
Just the wings though. That's crazy.
You can't sleep with a ring on. Everyone knows that.
It's like, that's so weird. Yeah, it's super strange. I mean, think about it. We're literally gnawing on another human, like, not human, living bone. Yeah. It's barbaric in a weird way. I love it, though. I love it. Speaking of loving it.
Yeah, there's definitely a ton of veggies. Maybe some nuts, pistachios. A couple of cocker spaniels every now and then.
Oh, those are actually mine. I was going to say... What is the ad? The ad? I don't know. Oh, you mean the new ad for the podcast? Yeah, we were just talking about it.
No, of course not. We can talk about that. We do more than shirts. We do hats, stickers, wood hoop bracelets, all types of stuff.
Yeah, why wouldn't you? You're going to have a pool.
You're going to have a pool. Why wouldn't you bring goggles?
She loves it, man.
You guys are staying in Augustine for three days.
It's going to be fun.
Well, we'll be here. At Planet Starbuzz. Yeah, watching. Making sure the kids survive, you know, like we always do. After we get right out of work. Yep.
Name one thing.
You're not allowed to have fun at work, Josh. You enjoy your life and what you do for a living? How dare you? It's our turn. Fine. You get this one time.
yeah it was like 10 minutes it was just going yeah we did that one time and we are the keys were 15 miles away and so legitimately and it was in the middle of the night and it was my sister's car and it was going off in the whole neighborhood heard like it's just all right we just have to start driving right now I'm calling the cops can just disconnect the battery I was on I was doing that yeah and then and then um Lily found the keys
Have you guys heard about the Mountain Dew conspiracy?
tell me you know me i'm all about the mountain dew apparently there's a big conspiracy you haven't heard about it no i literally like so many fans have sent me this and maybe it's just because i love mountain dew but like there's always been that conspiracy of like uh somehow mountain dew flavors like coincide with like big major events they had something with maui yeah uh that went in the maui fires happened right last year they brought back the pitch black and then we had like the biggest it blackout of all time oh my gosh
And there was another one that the tropical, they have a tropical thing that was a tropical flavor last year. And it was like the tropical swirl. And then we had all those crazy hurricanes. Is there one with code red? I don't know. I can't remember if there was. But then they brought a star spangled splash flavor for 4th of July last year. And then, no joke, later on, that bridge collapsed.
But guess what the name of the bridge is called? Francis Scott Key. The guy who wrote the Star Spangled Banner.
That's insane. It's kind of wild. And so they just released a new flavor. I'll have to look up the name of it, but a lot of people are trying to think of like, okay, what thing is going to go inside?
No, they were robbed. Purple Thunder is the new flavor. Purple Thunder? Purple.
I mean, I think it's confirmed at this point. I don't think we have to even... Golly. You guys heard it here first. You think you can trust someone. You think you can trust someone. You think you know someone. You think you know them. But they stab you in the back. They stab you in the back.
It's like a scarlet fever, but maybe there's a purple fever.
Possibly.
Yeah, who's that? Say it one more time.
What's his name?
I don't know, but we probably should do this for the rest of the podcast. Oh, that's fun. Purple. Okay, I have this one.
Yeah, it's terrible. When I used to get hives as a kid, like, going to anaphylactic shock, I literally would just be covered. My whole body would be in hives. And it would be torture. Yeah.
His entire flipping torso just reminds me of those tribes that have like that mitt that you put your hand in to become a man. And it's like full of like bullet ants.
Yeah.
Pontius.
Oh, yeah. What happened? What happened there? You hit something?
I feel like I would want to try it, but hearing how terrible it is, I can't imagine.
I don't like that at all. It's kind of like reminding me of Dune when he sticks his hand in the box. What are we saying?
Sure.
Okay. And it's long. I'll cut it down.
Grabs the balloon. You slide it down.
Mom takes her away.
Yeah, it sounded like you were pretty close to getting it by the time he showed up. Basically, he just had to help you into the car.
Is that not the weirdest thing you've ever seen? It's so weird. I don't like that.
I feel like that needed to be a full film, though. Yeah. I'll cut that way. That's so funny.
This is the new Atlas from Boston Dynamics.
This thing's supposed to be doing, like, groceries. And, like, vacuuming.
They're teaching this thing stealth moves.
It's, like, and also it's just getting crazy because this was, I mean, you remember the first one they made, right? Like, just the tiny one. And it's just getting nuts, man.
Are we going to do something? Are we going to stop this? What are you? What are you? Fine, I'll step in.
Lily, this is crazy. I'm ready. This is the biggest archaeological discovery they've ever had in the pyramids in our modern time ever.
I thought there's no way this is real.
Underneath it? Like what?
A pool?
No, I'm kidding. Hot tub?
No.
Yeah, it's columns.
That makes sense, and that's why they used the limestone from hundreds of miles away compared to what they had there because it didn't have that type of properties. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. There's a photo if you want to look at it.
Yeah. Dude, I could see that, man. I could honestly. That looks. Oh, my gosh.
This is it.
Obviously, these people know a little bit.
What else is there? If they're digging something that far deep down, I don't know how that works back then. Did they have to dig down deep, or was the sand at a lower point at one point? I don't know.
You're the worst neighbor in the world.
They're just going to be like, actually, we're shutting it down. No one can come. Yeah. No one can come here now.
That's reminding me.
Crazy stuff. Yeah. I hate that. I do love you being off social media because that was a good, that's a good news thing right there. Yeah, tell me more. Everyone was psyched. Oh, Nick Frost, the guy from The Bigger Guy and Shaun of the Dead.
Which I think would be a perfect cast. That would be perfect. I think that'd be awesome. Yeah. We need more British people, not John Lithgow. Yeah. Which is going to do great, but it's like, if we're doing British, do British. They just make Timothee Chalamet Hagrid. You guys are going the wrong direction. Timothee Chalamet is Voldemort, dude. Who should be the next Voldemort?
That's probably the biggest. Yeah, Cillian Murphy's going to be it. For sure? I'm pretty sure. Dude, if that's true.
Dude, he would be so creepy.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do get it, though. I mean, because it's a series. Yeah. Like, each season's going to be a whole movie, a book. Yeah, yeah. I think that's really, because you can explore more. Yeah, the books are, I mean, got, you know, there's so much stuff that they left out. Yeah. And so it's going to be really cool to focus on certain things to make sure how that, you know, see how it looked.
But, I mean, it's going to be hard to beat the Dursleys as well. I mean, that's going to be hard to do. I know. They casted everyone perfectly in the first movies. Yeah.
I'm excited. Russian.
You want a song? I guess. Do you want a song?
And no one knows who exactly can claim him and the ship, right?
That stinks.
That is so stinking cool.
Oh, my gosh. 300 of that being in one trip.
It's crazy that they prepped for that, though, because he didn't run out of oxygen, food. I mean, that's a long trip.
That'd be awesome.
hold their breath really big I don't know that's a great question I mean they have to create it snake plants how do they get oxygen
They're breathing their pee. Yeah. And they do it called cosmonauts in this one. It says, yeah, bring oxygen from Earth, and they make oxygen by running electricity through water. This is called electrosis or electrolysis. Electrolytes. Yes. Electrolysis. Electrolysis. The air and the water on the space station all originally came from Earth.
Astronauts and cosmonauts transport these vital supplies to the space station when they travel there on capsules. Astronauts and cosmonauts also receive supplies from uncrewed spaceships such as the Russian Progress and American Dragon. American Dragon?
oh man you dehydrated yeah they literally the space station's water recycling system produces pure drinking water from the wastewater sweat and even urine in the words of astronaut doug wheelock yesterday's coffee is tomorrow's coffee bro that's crazy that's pretty funny that's wild
Everyone's got a bathtub, right?
That's so weird. I mean, we look at the pyramids, like, what's underneath there? It's like, we have no idea what's underneath. Oh, man. Everything that we're just standing on. Yeah. It's what we just see all the time.
I mean, that's fair. Yeah. Maybe not being good. It's kind of like I would say it's similar to lucid dreaming.
Out loud?
And it's like, no, maybe don't do that. Dude, there's even something about it on the healthandhumanservices.gov site.
It's about pain management. Yeah. On healthservices.gov. Really? Yes. Advanced pain management for healthandhumanservices.gov. What does it say? I mean, it's literally a huge document.
Yeah, but that's what it's about. It's mentioning it. That's so weird, man. Yeah. See, that's the stuff that makes me think. There has to be something just darker with all that. The government knows something deep down and dirty.
But I'm an Enneagram too.
Stop it right now.
It's not. I just looked it up. It's 15545. It's pretty close. That's really close. That is close. I was like, it does sound like a zip code. I'm like, what would be a good place? I should have picked the Pyramids of Giza. I know.
The CIA headquarters.
Immediately.
Yeah, we just gave them all the steps on how to do it, though. There's so many car wrecks that are about to happen. That's the thing. That's so weird.
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Harnessing the empire.
Guys, you will learn how to harness the impactor.
Very scary. You guys texted me and you're like, what you watching? I said, Nosferatu. Not for the family or faint of heart. It's pretty... You said Ada didn't like it, right? You said Ada didn't like it though, right? She did not like it, no.
It's all from the back end of it. I just like how he talks.
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Crazy. What? What did you say?
The question?
You didn't say anything. We stopped doing the question a while ago. Yeah, like 10 episodes ago. Remember when everyone was complaining like, hey, stop gaslighting Lily.
Do you not pay attention to this podcast?
Whoever you're watching this next to, look to the right or left of that and see them and call them dumb because that's how Lily feels.
We need a better gong.
We spent like $50,000 on like an ancient just... We need a giant one right by Andrew.
I don't know.
What is that? All those sayings? Whenever you trip accidentally and you're like, That has been an assassination attempt on my life.
i mean that's like my darling dude what a crazy like imagine just walking into that lodge or that cabin in the middle like you're just a wanderer and then you run into benjamin franklin john adams snuggling time travel back you're the coin guys
He goes on road trips. He's making it easier on themselves. I don't like the night air. I wonder if that's where Benjamin Franklin.
Why? Believe it or not. Why not?
Because they're awesome. Because literally right now. Because we're like, oh, what are the other ones? And you're like, oh, Andy's got them. You want to bet? My enemies have defeated me today. whenever you're full. My waistband is suffering. My waistband is suffering. When you want to say someone is stupid, wisdom is chasing her, but she is faster. Oh, this is my favorite. This one's so good.
Oh. I wonder if that's where Benjamin Franklin came up with the idea for electricity.
I wish that was in frame.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, that's like, that's the craziest thing though about how many things they brought into like just our view. They're like,
flooding our feeds with all of this stuff happening and then you think about the next presidency coming in it's kind of like even if if this was all like a manipulation type ploy to just get us distracted get us stirred up like how do you go from like this much in your face to like yeah everything's chill there there has to be like the weirdest like back out of the chaos you think strategy i guess i think we need to get like ambassadors ninjas of butterflies ambassadors
Okay. Yeah.
Every single mass shooting. Changes of law. Gun laws get stricter. Government is the only one that has guns. It's an example.
This definition of plasma does nothing.
Am I in plasma? What? Plasma is one of four fundamental states of matter characterized by the presence of a significant portion of charged particles in any combination of ions or electrons. Oh, that makes sense.
This is like the first episode since they sent it that I think I'm not wearing one of the hats. I love them.
Yeah. So that's where I'm getting confused. It talks about how a plasmoid is believed to be like the predecessor to a star or something like that. Yeah. But Wikipedia is calling it a coherent structure of plasma and magnetic field. Coherent? Like it thinks? Literally, it just gets more confusing the more I read.
There was a Navy pilot talking about it on Instagram, probably actually TikTok, and I found it on Instagram. But they're black cubes inside of orbs. The longer this stuff lives on social media, I'm like, it's indistinguishable because it's always out of focus. And that's how we pick up on what AI is.
So it's like you just take a bad AI generation and run it through a million filters and destroy it. And it's like anything we're looking at could be a UAP, a UFO.
Yeah, because that was the counter argument. There's two suns. There's not, though.
I was going to call you on that.
The earth is on axis and as it spins for a day, it is also rotating around. And so because it's on its axis, some days as it's in this spot, you can see because of the angle. And on other days you can't see because it's angled away.
I love it, though. I was really tempted. I feel at home. I was really tempted to jump scare everybody and just smash the buttons.
Dude, I had a terrifying thought. So I needed scope for my rifle and I was looking them up and I found thermal scopes and I found one that someone was selling secondhand pretty cheap. I was like, this would be cool. But then I had the terrifying thought. Imagine being out in the woods and you're like hunting pigs or something like that.
And then you just see a thermal figure and then like, that's not a pig. So you put a spotlight up and there's nothing there. I think that happened.
What's your deal, dude?
You.
Sundaycool.com.
The essence of it? For the record, everybody hated on me for saying essence and then would ask the same question in a different way many episodes after. I don't know many soups.
He didn't. He asked me what my favorite soup is.
I think Josh is like top ramen. Thank you, sweetie. No. Sorry.
I love wonton soup.
Dude, now I just want to go get some Asian soup.
You? Huh?
I swear it gets longer. That volume was super quiet and had to have made it a little bit awkward. That's why we're a little softer.
Don't do that. Oh, yeah. This is how long it's been. We don't have... You don't have it in your favorites?
Yeah, I just saw this shout out. Uncle's punk. Uncle's spunk. Uncle's punk.
That is a freaking true story. That is crazy. Wouldn't you die? Apparently not.
Uh, surely he was. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't at the aftermath. Yeah. Immediately arrested by waiting members of the long beach police department. Um, the regional safety inspector was reported to have said, we know he broke some part of the federal aviation act. So I guess they were like, we don't know what we're going to write him up with, but you can't do that.
Okay. It would be cool, though. He was only fined $4,000 for his violations, and then it was later reduced to $1,500, the charge of operating a civil aircraft, which is not currently in effect at airworthiness certificate. So the only thing he got hit with was it wasn't certified airworthy.
We did last year and the year before, I thought, too. So, yeah, we have to keep traditions up. I think as this show's gotten bigger, we've gotten busier. Yeah. Except what does this mean for Andy? Is Andy not working?
You do other things as well.
I have legitimately only seen two new releases. Really?
Forgot about Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. I'll come in at three with that. Oh, yeah, that was good. Yeah. I haven't seen it. I haven't even heard of it.
Yep. So that's my number three. I mean, no offense. I put Dune at two. Oh, my gosh. And I put Kingdom of the Apes at number one. I respect it.
They had like six parts. It's so good, dude. Dude, we all forgot about a movie. It's my number one. What? Roadhouse. Roadhouse.
Classic. Classic. That was like a movie that was on in my house and about 10 seconds in, you're like, well, I'm going to go do chores while this is playing. Yeah. It's a good background movie.
I don't have mine listed out, but I have some thoughts. I think the economy is going to bounce back to some extent. I think housing market is going to finally –
level out a bit hopefully i hope so dude there's there's a ton of houses in my neighborhood that are like up for sale and they're just not moving right now i think because everybody's waiting for that next phase of interest rates to fall so yeah i think we're gonna uh be able to buy steak again that's my hope cool perfect so your one prediction that's my one prediction i just missed beef dude as long as you purchased the steak this year the prediction came true
And I'll shoot a mature buck. Who's your person of the year going to be? Person of the year? Joe Rogan. Just throwing it out there.
You did see that the governor of California already issued a state of emergency or whatever. Yeah, that new bird flu. Yeah.
Yeah.
But didn't it... If you're a bird, I'm a bird. Didn't it like originate in Louisiana or something like that? Yeah, the first case was there. They're like proactively going into a state of emergency. Yeah. People are like, yeah, no, no, thank you.
I forgot to mention with AI, I think we're going to see this year, I think we're going to see a court case where like video evidence is inadmissible because of the level of AI. Yeah.
I have two words why I'm not going. Why? Vampire catfish. Oh, yeah.
I'm going to shoot a trophy buck and a Ninjas fan is going to invite me to a massive ranch that has one on it and let me hunt it for free.
I don't think it's weird that you wonder, but I guarantee you'll regret it.
Was the last time you had short hair?
That's crazy.
Yeah. At least six foot 13. Andrew, go for it. Yeah, so Sam Hayes is a good friend of mine. He started Mythos Coffee out of Fort Walton Beach. Started this coffee, and it's genuinely amazing. Look at the packaging.
Yeah. And then the bottle, too, is another collab, but I think the packaging is sick.
And so he roasts coffee out of his own house, ethically sourced. But, yeah, he does this out of his house. It's incredible, like genuinely incredible. So go to mythos.coffee, and you can order coffee from him. Guys, do me a favor. Go check out his stuff. Yeah, go order his coffee. Please, please, please. He's a rad dude and deserves to have his business blow up.
It's actually, like, it's not just well-branded. It's, like, actually good.
Do a shocked face.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, I agree with you fully.
I feel good with where we are right now. Yeah. The conversation.
So my name is Lily, and this story happened in 2011. I was in the 11th grade, and my grandpa had been in a nursing home for... maybe three years at this point and nothing like physically wrong with him, but his mind was pretty gone. Never officially diagnosed, but he had some sort of dementia or Alzheimer's and he'd just become too much for my grandma to take care of.
So they'd moved him into this home and we got updates here and there about him. We'd gotten the latest update we'd gotten was that he was moving rooms from the room he'd always been in into a different room with a new roommate. And we just totally assumed that that had happened. And then maybe like two weeks later, I go to bed one night and I have this dream that I'm in the nursing home.
And my family lives in Canada near Toronto and my grandparents lived in New Jersey. So we really only got there like in the summer. So I'd only ever been in the nursing home maybe two or three times before. when we would like visit once or twice a year.
But it was like super vivid dream of me being in this nursing home and I'm sort of running through the halls trying to figure out where his new room was. Can't find it. I stopped this nurse and I'm like, hey, I'm here to see my grandpa and he had moved rooms and I'm not sure where his new room is. Could you lead me to his new room? And she just sort of goes, Oh no, he never moved rooms.
He's where he's always been. So I'm like, okay, cool. Start walking through the nursing home again. towards where I knew his room was, and his room was sort of at the end of a hallway, like the door, and on the right side of the hallway there was like four sort of waiting room chairs.
So I turn the corner and see his door, it's shut, and there's these four waiting room chairs, and there's this sort of human-like figure sitting in one of the chairs,
just like totally hunched over with its head in its hands like just like really sad and it's wearing these long sort of flowing black robes with this big black hood so i can't see a face and it's just like totally like head in its lap in its hands like sad and like you can it's a dream but you can sort of like feel things and dream sometimes
And it was this super tangible, just foggy, sad, heavy feeling. The best way I can describe its posture and the feeling was that it was sort of ashamed. And it was really sad and just depressed and it wouldn't look at me. And it didn't want to do what it was about to do. And then there's this huge crash. And I wake up. I'm in my bed. I look at the clock. It's 12.33 a.m.
And I just kind of quickly thought, like, oh, that was kind of like the Grim Reaper. That was sort of weird. He was in a nursing home, but we had no reason to think that he was dying. I didn't really think about him dying. It was sort of something that... I assumed would happen much further into the future. Go back to bed, forget about the dream in the morning.
I had an English exam the next day, so I woke up, went to my high school, wrote the exam, came home early, and my mom's sort of waiting by the door when I get home, and she goes, the nursing home just called, and your grandpa died, and they're not sure what time it was. but it was sometime in the middle of the night. And I just sort of immediately remembered the dream.
And I was like, oh my God, pretty sure it was 1233. And then she called my dad who was at work. She didn't say anything about the dream. And he doesn't really sleep. So he was like downstairs in the middle of the night watching TV. And he was like, I was watching TV last night and this bowl flew off the shelf at 1233 and just smashed on the floor.
So that's the sound that had woken me up from this dream, which is just like another weirdness to it. And then we'd ask the nursing home in the end if he had ever moved rooms and he had actually never moved rooms unbeknownst to us. So the nurse in the dream was right.
It was very surreal. Lily and I were together. She was checking their names and then I was giving people the rundown of what to expect and then launching them into the space. And like a couple of them, after I said, Hi, I'm Amy, blah, blah, blah. They were like, Amy B. Chesler? It was an out, like you said, an out of body experience for people to know so much information about myself.
They know my whole family history, but it was in like a loving way. It was like they see me and feel me. It was such a beautiful experience. space to be existing in for those few hours. And obviously it exists beyond with the community. But I will say one of the things that really, really hit home for me was a survivor came up to me and said, you know, I loved Something Was Wrong from the get-go.
I started in season one. I listened to every season. I connect with every season, but I didn't really know why until I got to season seven. And I realized... I had never heard of someone who was a co-victim of familial violence, like a co-victim of murder by someone in the family until I heard your story and I realized I wasn't alone. And that I'm literally covered in goosebumps in this moment.
And then that moment, it just validated why I do what I do, why we do what we do, why we do it together.
You might recognize my voice from season seven of Something Was Wrong. I was gifted the opportunity and honor to share my mom's story, my family history. That experience brought us so close, Tiffany. I think it was the tie that bound us in the beginning and then It's been such a beautiful opportunity to continue to keep in touch, but also to work together.
It has been pretty incredible to be a fly on the wall for some very powerful conversations with credible experts from fields across all true crime and have decades of experience and or an immersion in the field. It's been really, truly incredible to watch Lenora and Chris work. They're both incredible experts in many fields. They're just two really warm, open, honest humans who are really varied.
Most of the people that they've interviewed, what's really struck me is that they've been witnesses to true crime history in America.
Now I am the host and co-producer of What Came Next, which is crazy because we're about to hit episode 126. It's my mom's birthday, so I can remember the number. So 126 episodes already. Insane.
I was going to say another striking thing that makes it so unique is it's really interesting to not only have these credible experts, but like experts in every facet of true crime you could imagine.
Yeah. Transdow Task Force is a phenomenal nonprofit organization that helps support investigations into missing persons cases specifically related to the trans community and they are genetic genealogists. They also work to educate police organizations and better serving the trans community.
They've created the first registry for missing people that are trans, but also they've created an initiative called If I Go Missing. They've created a registry, in essence, of trans people who would like to register with their own information in the way that they'd like to present in the media or in efforts to find them in the event that they go missing, which is just an...
awful reality that the community needs such targeted support in that manner. But it is a reality that missing persons don't often get resources allocated and marginalized communities are often left to fend for themselves. The founders of Trans Do Task Force are incredible. The interview was incredible.
Tending the Garden is another amazing nonprofit organization created by Jimenica Eborn, who is a multi-crime survivor. She's a co-victim of murder and sexual assault survivor. So she has created this nonprofit. Lenora is also a member of the board. And that organization serves marginalized communities of color in terms of sexual assault survivorship and resources.
Dara is just amazing. She is a survivor who was on a mission to change the law in her state. Unfortunately, she did run into a few roadblocks. It was heard by the House. The last we had heard from her was it had not been carried through. The bill wasn't dead. It's easy to become deterred in the system. There are roadblocks and there are hurdles at times, but she kept at it and here we are.
It passed. All of her hard work came to fruition, which is symbolic of the mission of this show and the Something Was Wrong community and everything you do with Broken Cycle Media, taking our experiences and making change, whether it's directly legal change or it's awareness through listenership.
Yes, thank you. I want to highlight the fact that it does feel like a continued battle for justice, but it's also become like a continued battle to lift the veil on the proceedings of the criminal justice system, how it actually happens and how victims are forced to navigate it virtually almost forever.
Listeners, I think the last time they got an update on what came next was it was a sentencing hearing. where my brother received 36 years to life. There'll never be enough words to express my gratitude for your presence there that day and your continued presence and support.
But about five days before my 40th birthday, December 20-something, 2024, I did receive an update saying that he was up for parole in June of 2025. which was a huge gut punch. I didn't really understand. He was sentenced to 36 years to life for new charges, but he's still up for parole for my mom's murder.
And people do a double take when I say that because they don't realize that this is the process I'm stuck in. As much as I have comfort in knowing he's not going to get out of prison per se, I don't want him to ever be paroled for my mom's murder. If he is, then I'm not considered his victim in the system and I won't be notified if he gets released.
There are certain privileges victims are given, resources that I don't want to go away ever. And so I am going to fight for him to never be paroled. And then I received another notice not too long ago saying that unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, I have a very layered view of this action, but he has postponed his parole hearing for a third time.
So that 2025 hearing in June that he was supposed to have is now scheduled for sometime in 2030. So that is a good thing to a certain degree. There's five more years of his sentence for my mom's murder. But on the flip side, I do just have to kind of like persist in this system. And I have to keep writing my victim impact statement for five more years and psyching myself up.
Just a wild, wild ride.
Thank you for asking that. I still have a petition to keep him unparoled for my mom's murder. I'm sure we can provide the link in the episode notes. If anyone hasn't signed it yet over the last several years, I would really appreciate a signature. And if you haven't shared it, a share really goes a long way.
I do provide those signatures every time I go to a parole hearing and every time I go, it's a little larger and all of those names make a huge impact. They're deeply appreciated.
My favorite thing after those meetings is the AI captures.
It was like Amy had this opinion about White Lotus and Tiffany had this prediction. And then like, it's so good.
I also really wanted to add one of my favorite things, not only about Monday meetings, is also our group chat. I live for that too, because it's like our update plays. Even if it's a text about work and it's like, can we investigate this really fast? It's always exciting and it's always a safe place. So I did want to give a shout out to the group chat too.
I think season 23 was incredibly powerful. I don't even know if we'll ever know the ripple effects of the season itself and the women's actions and everything that they're doing to change the medical landscape. I feel so honored to have been a part of it. Personally, I realized that I had had birthing trauma in hearing their stories.
And I think there's so much validation to come from naming things and sharing them and knowing that you aren't alone. It brought me personal solace. I had a girlfriend in my own life. She said how much validation was just brought back.
And I think that the finale, especially really, really highlighted the expansiveness of what we covered and the effects that it has across a profession, across families, across a state, the country, the world. I think it was just really incredible what we encapsulated. It was a lot of hard work. It took us weeks. Yeah, that finale was a long time coming. And it saw a lot of forms.
But I think that what we did was ultimately the best service to the season and to the survivors and to what we were accomplishing. It was not about taking down midwifery in any way. It was just a commentary on these women's experiences. and how we all can work at placing better protections for mothers at large. Obviously, that's an oversimplification, but it was just such a deep honor.
And it was also going to the Texas event, such an honor to meet some of these women. Amanda and her husband, such... characters, Kristen and Thomas, and just to hug them and to know them as well as to support them through the process of sharing was really incredible. They're a huge inspiration to me personally.
It was wild to be a part of it and to be in the room with some of the podcasters and entertainers and creators. including you. I'm constantly in awe of everything that you do for survivors and just for society at large. And that event just sealed it for me. It was such an honor to be there.
Oh my God. If you had seen him and he said the same thing back to you. And I was like, oh my God, when did you meet him? And you were, he were like, no, no.
Correct, yeah. They're going to therapy, working on each other, trying to figure this thing out.
Uh, definitely. Yeah. So with his mom and his siblings. Yeah.
It's been a rollercoaster of emotions to say the least. It's definitely been chaotic and it's kind of, you're seeing this train wreck, but you can't really control any part of it. So you're just kind of sitting there and be like, well, okay, I guess that's happening now. That's a choice. Yeah.
Yes, I'm here. How you doing?
I think that relationship is really good. I think mainly because my mom was very repentant immediately afterward.
I think that's kind of going back to where James' dad is more so doesn't see where he went wrong. He doesn't see what, where the sin was. And his only regret is that he could have done it better. What? Correct. So that's the hard part where we deal with resentment because it's how can we move on from something that you don't see is wrong in the first place.
Hi, how are you guys? What's up? So I had a question in regards to what I should do in terms of life insurance and ways to invest my money. Okay. I currently have a term, life insurance, a 20-year term policy, but I also do have a VUL policy. Who sold you that?
What enemies have you made? I was kind of scared that you guys were going to say that. I didn't know too much about it. I've only had it for about a month and a half now.
But I've been reading a little bit more into it. My fiance, she got information about this. And I do have my Roth IRA, but I kind of got convinced to do this also. But I was a little skeptical about it just because the mixing life insurance policy with investing my money.
Roughly, yeah.
So for the death benefit?
It's $200,000 for the long-term, for the life policy. And what's it cost every month? It's about $230 a month. And then how much do you have in term? The term is $500,000, and that's about $20-something a month.
No, on the contrary. The reason why I kind of like gave it a chance is because the way they explained it to me about how they also invest the money that we're putting into it is kind of like you got both with one. You know, you do get your life insurance, but it's more only for like an investment purpose.
And then their returns for like a third year looked very similar to like a Roth IRA, like kind of returns. So that's why we kind of decided to, okay, you know, like this doesn't seem like a bad idea.
I don't think so. I told her I was going to give you guys a call because she knows I listen to you guys every morning.
You go to the Hill to meet with other non-speakers and share thoughts. You automatically have access to the Hill non-speakers go to when you can communicate mind to mind.
Just as he passed, I felt him go. Totally felt as though all worldly cares vanished and real life was now a blur. Wanted to go with him, but needed to stay to share the story of our love.
I communicate with him every day. I see him as energy. He tells me he loves me and for me to tell our story.
Yes, we talked about it and we mostly comforted each other, slowly realizing that John Paul was actually still with us. He told me to tell Libby that he was happy and whole and that everyone cared for him so well.
The amount of time since they passed makes no difference. Silly question to ask how often because why does it matter?
Almost always when there is a big, all-encompassing event that affects non-speakers, they show up. And everyone is encouraged.
No. There are those that make their way to the hill after never having been there while their physical bodies were alive.
I miss everything about him. His never-ending optimism and love. His playfulness, high-fives, and kisses. Much more to say, but not enough words to capture his awesome essence.
Yeah, you don't get over something like this easily. I still have a void in my soul that I doubt will ever be filled.
Yes. Each day, my JP slowly makes his presence known and I see him as energy. He still feels the love we shared.
We both loved water and when I'm in the water, I feel the most connected to him.
The religions of the world try to point us to God and to a more complete understanding of our souls and how we are made to love more and more like no human can, but love like God loves.
I believe our souls are eternal and we will never die. Very much believe each of us has a purpose on this earth and a purpose when we pass on.
After John Paul passed, I came to realize that everyone you love will take all that love with them as they go on to fulfill their purpose eternally.
Opposing spelling as a legitimate form of alternative communication needs to stop now. We need to be believed and supported. You cannot say we are fundamentally without rights just because we have bodies that betray us. Our minds are beautiful and non-speakers have so much to offer if you would only care to listen.
Nothing will change until you believe us. We see and hear everything. We even hear thoughts as you now are aware. We love and we hurt and we long to be included in the fabric of society and be accepted despite our unruly bodies. We autistics each experience the world in beautiful ways that voice users can only dream to understand.
I want to be educated, included, and valued as a person who has much to offer. Good that we are getting this platform to share both our inner lives and our hopes and dreams.
No change in humanity will come until humanity can realize that we are all mutually connected to each other. Be very mindful that we are about to go through a cataclysmic shift in the understanding of the fundamental nature of our relationship to the universe and everything in it. Each of life's little poignant moments point to an eternal reality more wonderful than we can imagine.
We all from time to time go to the realms and learn new things from the vast storehouse of knowledge from over the centuries. Mainly want to say that most of us experience a pretty amazing world despite our physical constraints and limited isolated at home existence.
Spelling is the only method that has given hope to non-speakers and shown the world our beautiful minds. But so many people don't want to believe that the words are our own.
Yeah, we've talked about it, but we also, I mean, sometimes there's, you know, like periods of time where maybe he's a little more sexual just depending on the moment.
Yes. Yes. I don't know if I could have said sorry more. I did apologize. I was like, I know that was very wrong. I don't ever plan on doing that again. And I am very sorry. That was an invasion of privacy. When we spoke on the phone, I apologized a few times about it.
Yes, I did. I did. I think I said, like, I did not mean to, you know, make you feel judged at all. I was just, you know, it was on my brain and I felt like I needed to talk to you about it or it wasn't going to go away.
He was just fine about it. I don't I feel like our conversation escalated into a much larger issue than the porn. Like it got derailed into something different where he got, you know, very defensive, I would say, just because I think he was feeling embarrassed and maybe like I was judging him.
I think that over the course of our relationship, that is something that I've noticed a few times when we have an issue. This was probably just the biggest time that that happened.
Yeah, it would show in other areas, I'm sure.
Okay. See, that's the tough thing is I just, being a woman, I'm like, I have no idea how often these men are watching porn. So it makes me feel better hearing that that's probably common.
Yeah, and he's not just on the computer for hours at a time.
Not, I mean, we're kind of new, so not to like a crazy extent.
We've been dating for like six months, so not super new, but still learning about each other's, you know, sexual appetite.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think we are.
Okay. And I think we are, you know, very open and comfortable with each other and with, you know, sexual conversation. So I don't think it'll be too difficult to do that.
I appreciate your opinion. Yes, it was helpful because I mean, yeah, you just never know. So it's good to hear from a male perspective, especially because, you know, us women aren't sure.
I'm not a snooper. I don't ever want to snoop again.
It'll present itself. Yeah.
All right. Well, yeah, that was helpful and I appreciate your advice.
Hi, my name is Lily and I'm 24 years old.
For sure.
All right. Thank you.
Yeah. You too. Bye. Bye.
I am just wondering how to handle my boyfriend's possible porn addiction.
Yes. So possible just because I don't know what a porn addiction looks like. I don't know. I'm not, you know, a therapist. It's not a confirmed porn addiction.
To my knowledge, I snooped a little on his computer. It was an accidental happen-upon situation, and then I snooped a little bit deeper into his history. I think I looked at maybe the previous 10 days of his history, and I think... out of the 10, nine days he watched porn. And it was kind of the amount that was concerning. So I would say there was like 20 to 50 links or videos on each day.
Yeah, that's all I know. I did. We have spoken about it. So there's a little more story than I wrote in.
Yeah, yeah, I did. And I will say confront loosely. I don't think I did a very good job at like bringing it up. I think I could have done better.
I brought it up in kind of like a lighthearted context. So I think it was a couple days after I stumbled across this. I just was kind of joking around with him and I told him that he needs to start clearing his laptop history. Okay. And so he obviously knew what I meant by that. And we kind of just like joked about it and that I wasn't going to plan on bringing it up further.
But I kind of sat with it and I was like, no, that's concerning. I will bring this up further. And so I actually texted him and I have the text if you want.
Yeah. So I just asked him, I just said, can I ask a follow up question about our porn conversation that is just on my brain now? And he said, sure. And I just said, you mentioned the other day that you used to have a porn problem. I'm just wondering if that's still a thing.
Cause he had mentioned to me that when he was like a teenager, he had like a porn addiction, at least his mom classified it as a porn addiction. So I'm, I didn't dive too deep into that. I'm assuming that he was watching it like every day and had a problem.
Yeah, yeah, like even just one time.
Well, yeah, it kind of escalated to a different level that I wasn't expecting because I think he was very upset that I... um, like went through his history. So I think that it kind of escalated in a way that I just kind of made me look at him different, which is kind of what I want to end your opinion on. He ended up saying, um, I do watch porn. I don't think I'm problematic.
I just don't clear my history. And I was like, you know what? Fair enough. I do too here and there. The frequency was slightly alarming, but I don't know what's normal. So, you know, that's that. And he said, I guess I don't either. And that was the end of the conversation.
And then he ended up messaging me later and just saying, like, did you go through the search bar or did you go through my history? And I said, like, yes, I'm sorry. I do feel weird about that. Like, you know, invasion of privacy, whatever. And then he said he feels very uncomfortable and that he was super upset and he needed a while to take a step back from it before speaking with me.
Probably almost a month ago.
So he took a little time. I mean, he messaged me like that night and he sent me like a long paragraph just saying how this is where it escalates, how he has felt disrespected and disregarded by many things I've done in our relationship. And this is just one of them. And that's kind of where it turned into like something bigger. Okay.
Yeah, well, I ended up, we texted a little bit. I said, if there's things you notice about me that are bothering you, I have no way of knowing unless you talk to me about it. And we ended up speaking on the phone. And he just had really nothing to say. I feel like he just kind of wanted to make me feel bad for snooping. And he was embarrassed. So he wanted to put it back on me. Maybe, yeah.
And I feel like he does that in a lot of our arguments.
To my knowledge, he used the words, I used to have a porn addiction, verbatim. I don't know what he meant by that. I didn't ask, you know, a lot of questions. He was like a teenager. I feel like a lot of teenage boys probably watch a lot of porn. And so I was like, that seems, you know, kind of normal. But addiction is, you know, obviously a little bit further.
It's good. I do feel like I have been the more sexual one in our relationship, which is also another point of the conversation is I didn't realize my boyfriend was that sexual because he just isn't as sexual with me.
Yeah. Well, and that's why I was, like, concerned about the porn is because I'm like, I didn't know that you were feeling sexy every day. Like, this is news to me. Well...
Well, and that was my concern, too, is because I don't care if my partner watches porn. I do. I don't care if my partner masturbates. I do. Those are not concerns of mine. It was more so like just what I saw would make it seem like he was sitting there for like two hours a day watching porn.
No, I didn't click on anything. There was no time stamps and I didn't want to like investigate further. I was just so many links every day, which maybe he's like bopping around.
All the way through.
Yeah. Which is fine. I feel like that's not even a bad thing. You know, it could be considered healthy. So that doesn't bother me.
Probably like three times a week, I would say on like average. Okay. Which is pretty good. I mean, we don't live together, so I feel like it's... It's pretty good. Normal.
He's 25. Okay. Yeah.
Um, we're doing well. I mean, this was like a month ago and I don't know, we're just doing well. I feel like we're like growing together and we're happy together and our sex life is good. Even though I am the more sexual person, it doesn't, you know, make it too difficult.
I just think that I would like to have sex every time I see him. If I could, that would be like my preferred. He is more like, I just want to chill sometimes, which is fine.