Lily James Olds

And I'm curious, with that in mind, you talked about you can't scale a volunteer organization in that same kind of way.

How do you think about either scaling or evolving this model, growing it?

What are your plans or hopes for that in terms of continuing to fight hunger in many communities?

I think one question that's been on my mind a bit in thinking about this conversation with you is, you know, you think so intentionally about the customer, the user, and you talked about how that was how you decided to switch this kind of traditional pantry model.

So then on the other side of that, you have the fact that there is so much food waste, right?

Like perfectly good food is often just...

thrown out because of sell-by dates or whatever from a grocery store.

In your kind of systems mind, what are the ways that we could start to connect the dots overall on that in terms of both of those issues?

How can we think about still giving the user the best possible experience of food, no matter their zip code?

And then simultaneously, how do we think about scaling back on food waste or utilizing that food that could be donated in certain contexts?

Right.

No, it makes sense.

And just that future looking perspective, right?

Instead of just what's right in front of you.

So fascinating.

I'm curious, is there anything else I didn't ask you about that you want to talk about today?

Thank you so much for this conversation, Dion.

As always, it's such a joy to get to talk.

Thank you.

Hi, Ramin.