Linda Mims

Yes, because in our state, they gave an option to the counties to actually take up an AOT program.

And the counties that did take it up, it's

It has turned out to be completely voluntary, which is worthless for the targeted population, which is like just a small percentage of the people who are the sickest.

So you've got to get these people in through another means, whether it be a conservatorship, a guardianship in some places it's called, or for what I call mandatory life-saving treatment.

I know a lot of people call it coercive, but no, it's actually life-saving treatment because every day in psychosis is a matter of life and death when you're out on the street homeless.

This is something that I don't really think people understand, as we were talking about, that these people aren't lazy.

They're not just choosing homelessness.

A lot of people with serious diseases like this, they turn to street drugs.

They turn to alcohol to stop the voices, to stop the hallucinations.

So it's a co-occurring.

It can be a co-occurring thing.

But yeah, you're not going to get these people off the street unless you basically, it's mandatory.

You say, that's it.

You need treatment.

We're going to get you off the street.

We're going to help you, that sort of thing.

And this IMD thing that Crystal's talking about, this is one of the most discriminatory laws against the populations we're fighting for ever.

It was put into the Medicare and Medicaid Act of 1963, or somewhere around there.

And it limits the number of beds that a IMD, which is a

Help me out here, guys.