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Lis Smith

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
543 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

They want people understand that they wake up in the middle of the night, like concerned about losing their job, like being one health emergency away from being bankrupt.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

They're not necessarily bankrupt right now, but it's just gnawing economic anxiety.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

And to a lot of people, the idea of this like revolution is actually pretty terrifying to them.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

They just want stability.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

They hate the chaos of the Trumps, but they don't want it replaced by a new sort of chaos where you're kicked off your health care and forced onto a different system.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

And I sometimes think that just saying, you know, a noun, a verb, a billionaire doesn't

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

doesn't it's like maybe great for an ideological lecture but it doesn't really connect with the main issues that people are feeling which is they just can't afford shit and they want to be able to know that like if they go to the doctor their services will be covered they won't get surprise bills when they get prescribed prescriptions that they will be covered that can afford them

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

They can afford them that maybe they can pay for them at the same rate people pay overseas.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

And so we need to make sure that it is not just this up in the clouds, railing against billionaires and monopolies and all this stuff that a lot of people don't understand and really bring it down to the very urgent existential things that people feel about costs in their lives right now.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

Yeah.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

And if you look at, you know, 2022, right, when it was a midterm election, I mean, it was different because Biden was president.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

The Senate candidates who won, it was, you know, both Ossoff and

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

Yeah, but then you had like, you had Fetterman, you had Mark Kelly.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

And then the one Senate candidate who lost was Mandela Barnes.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

We should have won that race.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

And he was someone who was going more in that vein.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

Now, I don't think that there was a problem against rail against the billionaires.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

But you've got to bring it back to not just billionaires bad, but like, for instance, you know, you and I talked about this before is we're seeing a lot of candidates right now talking about AI and the need to regulate AI.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

And full disclosure, one of them is Mallory McMorrow, a candidate I have advised since 2022.

The Bulwark Podcast
Lis Smith: A Very Vengeful President

Mallory is the first statewide this cycle to really take it on, taking on both the jobs and the online safety piece.