Lis Smith

And I want to use my struggles, use my journey to help other people who have gone through similar things and go to the Senate and fight for people who feel left behind by the system.

And

He's like tapping into the very anti-status quo, anti-establishment feeling that people have.

He's fucking pissed off.

And everyone I know in Maine, like I'm talking about people who like worked for Hillary Clinton.

Like not, I'm not talking about like lefties, all that.

They go wild for him because they've seen him up close.

And the nice thing about a state like Maine is you can actually see and touch a lot of people up close.

Harder to do that in Texas.

Oh, yeah.

It was like looking at 2024 and saying, okay, let's double down on all the dumb shit we did there.

Someone old, someone who is the definition of the establishment.

I don't understand why they expected a different result.

I mean, what even was the Kamala model, though?

Yeah.

I mean, generally, the things that are loudest create the most conflict, get the most coverage.

But to your point, there's not a lot of success.

And like I've, you know, I talked to a lot of voters, seen a lot of focus groups.

And like overall, what people say is they don't want a revolution.

They want stability.