Lisa Bevere

Absolutely. And, you know, crawl spaces are scary spaces. So definitely if you put something in a crawl space, it's not going to stay there long. No, John and I have some similar stories. I don't know if you've ever heard John talk about this, but John was addicted to pornography. And so he thought getting married was going to fix that. He thought, OK, I'll get married and then that will fix it.

And then I brought my my own issues to our marriage. I had been raised to be an exceptional heathen. And so I was trying out for the University of Arizona sexually gymnastics team. I mean, I was just like full on heathen. Heard about the love of God. And actually, John illegally dated me. He invited me to a Bible study picnic. I heard free food. I go to this picnic.

And then I brought my my own issues to our marriage. I had been raised to be an exceptional heathen. And so I was trying out for the University of Arizona sexually gymnastics team. I mean, I was just like full on heathen. Heard about the love of God. And actually, John illegally dated me. He invited me to a Bible study picnic. I heard free food. I go to this picnic.

And then I brought my my own issues to our marriage. I had been raised to be an exceptional heathen. And so I was trying out for the University of Arizona sexually gymnastics team. I mean, I was just like full on heathen. Heard about the love of God. And actually, John illegally dated me. He invited me to a Bible study picnic. I heard free food. I go to this picnic.

I hear about that when God looks at me, he would no longer see me, but he would see Jesus. And I realized that I was covered in shame. And so I interrupted John while he was singing awkwardly in 1981. This was not the best Christian music season. And I said, hey, is this true? Is this true that God could ever look at me and not see me? And John was like, absolutely.

I hear about that when God looks at me, he would no longer see me, but he would see Jesus. And I realized that I was covered in shame. And so I interrupted John while he was singing awkwardly in 1981. This was not the best Christian music season. And I said, hey, is this true? Is this true that God could ever look at me and not see me? And John was like, absolutely.

I hear about that when God looks at me, he would no longer see me, but he would see Jesus. And I realized that I was covered in shame. And so I interrupted John while he was singing awkwardly in 1981. This was not the best Christian music season. And I said, hey, is this true? Is this true that God could ever look at me and not see me? And John was like, absolutely.

And we went walking on Purdue's campus. He starts witnessing to me. I interrupt him. I think that 70s Thief of the Night movie is going to happen. John's going to disappear. I'm going to get beheaded. I'm like, I need to do this right now. On my first date with John, I got born again. I got saved. I was like, I don't know what we need to do. Light candles.

And we went walking on Purdue's campus. He starts witnessing to me. I interrupt him. I think that 70s Thief of the Night movie is going to happen. John's going to disappear. I'm going to get beheaded. I'm like, I need to do this right now. On my first date with John, I got born again. I got saved. I was like, I don't know what we need to do. Light candles.

And we went walking on Purdue's campus. He starts witnessing to me. I interrupt him. I think that 70s Thief of the Night movie is going to happen. John's going to disappear. I'm going to get beheaded. I'm like, I need to do this right now. On my first date with John, I got born again. I got saved. I was like, I don't know what we need to do. Light candles.

Like what needs to happen needs to happen right now. And, you know, I got born again. And then John said, now you're safe. I said, what does that even mean? And he had no idea. He was talking to a 21-year-old girl who had an eating disorder, who had lactose intolerance, who had so much sexual shame. And he said, well, salvation means you're whole again, spirit, soul, and body.

Like what needs to happen needs to happen right now. And, you know, I got born again. And then John said, now you're safe. I said, what does that even mean? And he had no idea. He was talking to a 21-year-old girl who had an eating disorder, who had lactose intolerance, who had so much sexual shame. And he said, well, salvation means you're whole again, spirit, soul, and body.

Like what needs to happen needs to happen right now. And, you know, I got born again. And then John said, now you're safe. I said, what does that even mean? And he had no idea. He was talking to a 21-year-old girl who had an eating disorder, who had lactose intolerance, who had so much sexual shame. And he said, well, salvation means you're whole again, spirit, soul, and body.

And I don't know why I picked the easiest one, but I said, so I can have cheese now that I'm a Christian? You said I could have cheese. He said, I never said that. He said he had never said that before. I want cheese. I want cheese. I'm Italian. I want cheese. And so he was so nervous, guys. He had me do a fill in the blank prayer, which looks like thank you, Jesus, for healing me up.

And I don't know why I picked the easiest one, but I said, so I can have cheese now that I'm a Christian? You said I could have cheese. He said, I never said that. He said he had never said that before. I want cheese. I want cheese. I'm Italian. I want cheese. And so he was so nervous, guys. He had me do a fill in the blank prayer, which looks like thank you, Jesus, for healing me up.

And I don't know why I picked the easiest one, but I said, so I can have cheese now that I'm a Christian? You said I could have cheese. He said, I never said that. He said he had never said that before. I want cheese. I want cheese. I'm Italian. I want cheese. And so he was so nervous, guys. He had me do a fill in the blank prayer, which looks like thank you, Jesus, for healing me up.

And I just put the word in lactose intolerance. And I felt this love come into my body and untie all the knots that have been in my stomach since I was 15. And I was completely healed. I mean, crazy, amazing. But there are certain things that God's like, I'm going to do this one. I'm going to do this one for you. But then there's others you're going to have to walk out.

And I just put the word in lactose intolerance. And I felt this love come into my body and untie all the knots that have been in my stomach since I was 15. And I was completely healed. I mean, crazy, amazing. But there are certain things that God's like, I'm going to do this one. I'm going to do this one for you. But then there's others you're going to have to walk out.

And I just put the word in lactose intolerance. And I felt this love come into my body and untie all the knots that have been in my stomach since I was 15. And I was completely healed. I mean, crazy, amazing. But there are certain things that God's like, I'm going to do this one. I'm going to do this one for you. But then there's others you're going to have to walk out.

And it's interesting, though, you're talking about. I think there's two of my most popular podcasts. One is on demons. I'm like, who knew? 500,000 views about the demonic. And then the second one was about how I almost destroyed our marriage. How how my fear and my need to control and and I did not walk well with my husband from a place of bondage to freedom.