Lisa Fong

And of, like, being a mother or having your mother or not having your mother or having your partner's mother, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Also, when I woke up thinking about, you know, my friend who died five months ago and I text, I really need to get the daughter's number, but I text, you know, Louie's mate.

I said, hmm.

I said, love you, darling.

I'm so proud of you.

Keep going.

I know today will be hurting.

I know you can get through it.

You are so loved.

He wrote back, thanks, Lisa.

I really appreciate it.

Love you too.

Happy Mother's Day to you.

Like he said that back, happy Mother's Day to you.

I'm like, oh my God.

I had just caught a snippet of a podcast with, was it with Stephen or Jay Shetty or someone like that?

And the man, I don't know who he is, but he talked about losing his mother however long ago, like years ago in his 20s or 30s or something.

And he's like probably in his 60s.

And he said, like, I'm still a middle, a mid-age, midlife man or whatever, still struggling with the grief of losing my mother.

And he said, but I don't, I try not to, like, wallow in it because I do think, and I've heard this one before where, like, what is it, something like...