Lisa Ireland

Her interests are going out and drinking with her mates.

But what she does, every decision she's making, she consults an app, which is called Be Best.

And

So the app will tell her whether she's wearing the right colour shoes, whether she's making the right financial decisions, whether she can have a loan for a new house.

Everything that you would make a decision on in your life is controlled by this app.

You don't have to use the app, but nearly everyone does.

And it's just the implications of what happens when you allow technology into your life to that degree.

I found it a fascinating read and it made me put my phone away for a few days afterwards.

So I was actually just given today at lunchtime, The Wife in Between to read.

So I'm going to read that on the plane on the way back to Melbourne.

Thank you so much for speaking to us, Lisa.

Thank you so much for having me.

It's been great.