Lisa Lerer

It's a heavy travel season.

But I do think there are divides in the Democratic Party.

And some of that has to do with how they are interpreting the results.

Right.

There's certainly a group of people in the party who say these results show that voters vote.

want Democrats to fight.

You know, they like to say resist Trump and they absolutely should not give in on the shutdown, that they're being rewarded for refusing to give in to Trump to keep the government open.

But I do think there's another group of Democrats who look at these results and say this was not about the shutdown.

This was about cost of living.

And the risk with this is that if the shutdown doesn't end, all those cost of living pressures get worse and worse for people.

And

And in fact, they really want the shutdown to end and then move to this issue that they see as more politically salient and positive for them, which is talking about cost of living and affordability.

I mean, I think one incentive is it's quite bad for people, right?

Like the SNAP benefits are going to be a big problem.

They may be delayed.

The airline travel is going to get messier and messier.

You know, at some point that could reverberate against Democrats, but there are real consequences.

Right.

So certainly one would hope that for people in elected office, that would be some kind of an incentive.

But you're right.