Lisa Phillips

And I started speaking out of documentaries and then slowly I had to start telling my story and I wasn't ready for it because I had so much to support the other women.

I wasn't really ready to start saying I was abused too because

I didn't understand my role in it.

I always felt like it was my fault and I didn't know how to get out of it.

I just was so confused about it until we start learning about the grooming and how all these young women were just groomed by him masterfully, masterfully manipulated and groomed by the best of all time who had enablers and all these other people helping him.

And Jeffrey was a fiend.

He was a sex fiend.

All he talked about was sex.

He had to get off six to eight times a day.

Young woman going into his Upper East Side,

mansion six to eight times a day and a lot of the girls knew about his creepy massages but we didn't speak further on how and this is common amongst serial predators most of the larry nassar you know the the doctor for the gymnast like none of them they was oh you're getting this weird doctor thing no but no one spoke about it until many years later when someone had the courage to speak up then it's like

Oh, that's what's happening to me too.

And when I spoke to these survivors that were underage at the time, I was like, okay, I was in my early 20s like hundreds of others, but it was the exact same type of abuse that he was doing.

It was the exact same MO with the massage turning into an assault.

So I just started speaking out and gained confidence and through therapy and, you know, I just...

was building into this powerful woman who wanted to make a difference.

So that's kind of what led up to today.

Well, really, for me, it's just because people are so confused about what's going on, not only as survivors are still confused, but like the transparency, what is really going on?

Everyone makes it about Trump and Epstein.

OK, maybe there's something there, but it's about Epstein, but it's about this whole ring of men.