Liz Flock
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43 appearances
1 recordings
1 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard Mar 2025
Liz Flock’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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We find that Tom's cat is named Meowmar J. Gaddafi, which is basically the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's name. It's just getting, like, ridiculous at this point, to be honest. And then we find one more thing. And that is we find that Amina gave a five-star review to Tom's ESL school that he has in Atlanta. I know. I know.
And this is when it starts to just feel like, oh, my God, this guy is absurd. So as Amina A., Amina writes, great school, great teachers. This is probably the best value for anyone who wants to learn English in Atlanta.
So Amina is super active online, and part of that is flirting with women.
And Amina... She's also flirting and writing on the blog of this person, Paula Brooks, who has a very popular blog. website about being lesbian called Les Get Real. Nice.
Paula and Amina spoke all the time online and even were engaging in like a relationship that it wasn't clear how flirty it was slash sexual it was. I think it seems like it was definitely romantic slash sexual.
This is all online, like email and blog posts and, you know, corresponding about the blog posts.
Paula was outraged that this person was pretending to be a lesbian.
This man was pretending to be a lesbian.
Like, they basically, they laugh off the idea that either of one of them could be Amina. And Tom is kind of like sarcastically laughing at me. And he's saying, he says something like, look. If I'm the genius who pulled this off, like, I would just say, yes, it's me. And I would write a book. Genius. Genius. Yeah.
And then I went through all the connections we had, which at this point were like 15 different connections. And I think we called him a second day in the row. And then he started to get aggressive with us. And he said, like, thanks a lot for tracking us down and hung up on me.
And the title of the blog is changed from a gay girl in Damascus to, let me find it, a hoax that got way out of hand. I never meant to hurt anyone.
Yeah. Well, actually, he retitles it A Hoax. Oh, OK. And then there's that subtitle.
She says to her editors, So I interviewed Paula, but I actually didn't interview Paula because she's deaf. And I talked to her father because she's deaf. And he said she can't speak on the phone. And her father, like, weirdly knew a lot about the story. And basically now I'm doubting that everyone is real. Do you guys think that Paula Brooks is also not real?
It's the exact same thing as with Amina. Like, I can't talk on the phone, so I'll have to do it in this alternate way. But in this case, I'm deaf. And, you know, I didn't want to doubt Paula being deaf. Right. The dad was so weird. Right. And now I'm basically like, is every single person on the internet actually just a white dude pretending to be someone else?
So I call back the dad and I basically say, I know you're Paula Brooks. Oh, wow. You just went straight for it. I think we just went straight for it. Maybe we said, are you Paula Brooks? And he basically just said yes. Oh, what? My name is Bill Graber. Yep. He said, I'm Bill Graber. Then I said, like, who are you? Bill Graber.
And it turned out he was like a retired construction worker who lived in Ohio.
Basically, Bill said that by running Les Get Real, he was surfacing issues for the lesbian community and helping in that way.
Yes. I mean, I would have loved to get those chats between Amina and Paula, a.k.a. Tom and Bill, two white men flirting with themselves, each thinking the other one is a lesbian. But I never got those chats. So we'll have to let our imaginations run wild on that one. But he, yeah. And Bill, you know what's funny? I still remember this.
I was like, Bill, how does it feel to know that you were flirting with another dude thinking it was a lesbian? And he was definitely like put off by that. And he said this thing to me. He was just like, it was a major sock puppet hoax. Crash into another major sock puppet hoax.
I mean, to the point. At this point, you can tell by how plugged in everyone is because we don't even need to explain more than that because everyone knows what's going on and is like glued to their computer's I mean, some people and Syrian activists in particular were like really upset by the whole situation, especially about Gay Girl in Damascus because it was taking like needed.
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