Lloyd Blankfein

And the battery went out.

And I know that battery must have been here for 22 years.

I think I owned that device for like 40 years.

And I looked at that and I said, you know, I never thought of this before.

But what consumer device?

It's still tracking.

After 40 years, not only are people still using, but looks like it could have been designed, you know, last year.

It's an amazing thing.

Well, our SecDB was kind of like that.

It was also, but it wasn't a consumer device, but it was a good like this.

I have a lot of admiration for some, you know, for design that really, you don't expect design to stand the test of time.

Fashion doesn't.

Sure.

But this does.

I'm telling you, the original iPhone looks like an old product to me.

The A12C looks pretty good.

We think a lot about like systems of record and their durability.

And I think, yeah, SycTV was sort of an example of that, certainly at Goldman.

You know, one of the things that I think was unique about your career as well is you spent half of your time at the firm kind of pre-IPO in a partnership and half the time, you know, post.

Sure, very relevant to your entrepreneurs.