Lloyd Blankfein

By the way, how we treat, you know, one of the examples of that kind of ownership, we treat our alumni very specially.

Goldman has an alumni office.

I put that in.

An alumni office.

I spoke to Alison Ness.

Yeah, Alison Ness is a partner, and she runs our alumni office, where we do things for people who have been out of the firm for 20 years.

I was going to ask you about this.

Like, I was only at the firm for three years.

You know, not that long, but I still have a lot of affection for my time at the firm.

And it's a weird thing, right?

And even people who've been out of Goldman for decades, Jim Cramer, you know, you mentioned in the book, like they're so often defined by the firm.

Oh, no, he goes on to you too.

Like, yeah, he hasn't been in Goldman for 35 years or something like that.

Where does that come from?

Again, it's how, you know, it's a lot of times.

It's crazy to expect a kind of loyalty if you don't show loyalty.

It's crazy to expect commitment if you don't show commitment.

I would say leadership, my predecessor did, my successor does.

The challenge at Goldman Sachs, we had to go.

I mean, I can get into this.