Loren Wilson

I can't recall the other ones that I've read.

Um, studying or following?

Wow, that's a good question.

Um, I can't say that there is Mark Cuban comes to mind.

He's in the news right now.

So kind of kind of following some of his actions.

online tool for building a business.

You know, we, we look at a lot of open source tools.

We like some of the lean and, and, and, uh, open source types, type solutions.

Uh, you know, we use the, uh, uh, the solutions that are, uh, I forget the, uh, the group that, that runs these, but JIRA, uh, Bitbucket, uh, Insightly comes to mind.

Those are great tools.

Atlassian, that's right.

oh wow so probably six to seven okay that's pretty good and uh what's your situation married single you have kiddos uh so a couple kids uh divorce how many kids i got two beautiful little girls oh okay good so two kiddos and how old are you uh i'm gonna be 42 next month all right lauren last question take us back to your 20 year old self what do you wish you knew

That's a great question.

Uh, I, I wish I knew, uh, you know, I wish I knew what, uh, uh, what, what was ahead, you know, just to be able to kind of have a vision of, uh, what was coming ahead and be able to plan a little bit better for it.

So you learn, you learn things, uh, later in life that, uh, you certainly wish you knew younger.

So, uh, I wish I had a little bit more vision and, and, uh,

I did a little bit more with it in my 20 years.

Thanks, Nathan.

Appreciate it.