Lou Shapiro
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard Mar 2025
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My pleasure. Good to be with you again.
Yeah, sure. I'm a criminal defense attorney, formerly worked for the government Los Angeles County Public Defender's Office. Since then, I've started my own criminal law practice 10 plus years ago where I do state and federal criminal defense.
Yeah, it seems like the judge is trying to keep the trial timeline on a shorter leash now. The final pieces of discovery and names of the alleged victims are being provided. So we are definitely nearing the finish line in terms of the pretrial phase.
Right. So when it comes to victims, of sexual abuse or domestic violence, the courts tried to make all efforts to protect those names, keep them confidential to prevent further harassment or embarrassment and so forth.
So that's why the judge said to the attorneys, you can have this information, you can do what you want with it in terms of investigating their backgrounds, their statements and so forth. You just can't release that information to the general public.
So even if they were previously disclosed by counsel, because the judge made an order from here on moving forward, they won't be able to say the names of those individuals out loud, even if it's obvious.
Yes, typically witness lists are provided shortly before trial. People at both sides are making last minute changes to who they're going to be calling or not. And in that sense, they're provided to the court And I don't see why the judge wouldn't allow those witness names to be at least provided to the public.
I think the judge is going to be conducting a balancing test because there is the right of the public also to the press to understand the court system and right of information. So he'll be balancing that or she'll be balancing that.
Well, it also depends on who's willing to cooperate with the government in this case. I don't expect a lot of witnesses on Diddy's side. I expect a longer witness list on the prosecution side. But again, They probably would want to call some A-listers, but A-listers probably want to stay as far away as they can from a proceeding like this. So it's not to be associated with Didi in any way.
Right. It depends. how comprehensive the judge wants to make that order. He could tell everybody in the room, whoever is in the trial, that they're not allowed to release any information about the witnesses or the victims in the case. We have to see how the judge plays that. We don't know yet.
Yes, the judge can order that everybody else except for the parties involved, exit the courtroom and have that part of the proceedings closed.
Does that happen often? Yeah, it does happen, especially when it's requested by the victims. It's certainly something that is common, yes.
So the testimony would be public, just their names would not be.
Right, because some wanted, I think, send a message to the public and stand for what they were testifying about and wanted to be reached out because they have a story to tell and they wanted to tell it. But others wanted to remain under the radar. So it's a personal decision made by the accusers.
No, I don't think they're going to be sequestered like in the OJ case where they're taken to hotels and being given food and no access to television and so forth because back then, You could actually have a chance at sequestering a jury, meaning cutting them off from the media and so forth, so it won't influence their decision-making in the trial.
These days, with phones, tablets, and computer systems, which we all rely on, it's just unreasonable to expect a juror to not be able to know what's going on in the public. Because it's unreasonable, I don't think a judge would even bother with sequestering these days. And that's why we don't hear about it anymore.
Yeah, the judge will admonish them when every every break and when they go home, do not read, speak about, talk about. or watch any materials related to this case. If you've ever been on jury duty, you want to keep that honor as much as you can.
Yeah. Like I said, I don't think we're ever going to see something like that again.
I think it's really not in Diddy's hands, even how he's looking to that extent, because it's not like he can go get his hair done in the cell there, right? So he has to play with the hand that he's dealt. I don't think he's intentionally looking for sympathy or anything like that. It's just the nature of having to defend a case from the inside. It's very challenging.
I'm sure he'll be wearing a suit and tie at the trial itself. He'll be well-groomed, shaven, and so forth. I'm sure it's very stressful leading up to the trial, obviously. Oh, I mean, yeah, just all sorts of thoughts are going through somebody's mind. The defense is going to be that this is all consensual. So it's going to come down to credibility. Who is believed? Who has motive?
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