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The Trial of Diddy

All He Has Is Kanye in His Corner

Fri, 21 Mar 2025

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Welcome to The Trial of Diddy - hosted by DailyMail.com’s West Coast News Editor Marjorie Hernandez and Manhattan-based Kayla Brantley, reporter-at-large and TV correspondent at Daily Mail. Kayla and Marjorie explore every new development in this story each week, looking at what may - or may not - be coming next for Diddy. This week they dig into former Diddy Chief of Staff Kristina Khorram’s explosive new statement and catch up with state and federal criminal law attorney Lou Shapiro. Don’t miss it! Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us [email protected] Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Marjorie Hernandez and Kayla Brantley Editor: Sam Morris Producer Rob Fitzpatrick Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East   A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What are the latest allegations against Diddy?

1.906 - 14.011 Narrator

The following episode explores a number of allegations regarding the artist Diddy. He denies all charges and has pled not guilty to sex trafficking, racketeering and transportation to engage in prostitution.

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16.692 - 25.116 Sam Morris

The biggest secret in the entertainment industry that really wasn't a secret at all has finally been revealed to the world.

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25.791 - 45.112 Marjorie Hernandez

At the height of his career, Sean Diddy Combs had it all. It seemed like everything Diddy touched turned to gold. Now the once untouchable hip-hop mogul is fighting for his life as he faces multiple federal charges in New York, including sex trafficking and allegedly running a criminal enterprise.

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46.089 - 63.472 Kayla Brantley

Music mogul and rapper Sean Diddy Combs has faced four different lawsuits in recent weeks alleging sexual assault.

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64.673 - 79.473 Marjorie Hernandez

I'm DailyMail.com journalist Marjorie Hernandez, and over the last six months, I've been investigating this incredible story and speaking to the people in the eye of the storm. Welcome to the Trial of Diddy.

85.838 - 88.64 David Patrick Caracos (Promo Speaker)

If you like this episode, we think you'll love this.

89.861 - 106.492 David Patrick Caracos (Promo Speaker)

I'm David Patrick Karikos, and on this week's episode of Apocalypse Now, as Donald Trump heads to Doha, we discuss Qatar, a small state at the center of a world increasingly ridden with faction and conflict. Listen to Apocalypse Now wherever you get your podcasts.

111.673 - 114.896 Kayla Brantley

Hey, I'm Kayla Brantley, reporter at large for the Daily Mail in Manhattan.

115.737 - 119.16 Marjorie Hernandez

And I'm Marjorie Hernandez, DailyMail.com's West Coast news editor.

Chapter 2: Who is Kristina Khorram and what did she say?

Chapter 3: What new developments occurred in Diddy's court case?

624.44 - 639.051 Kayla Brantley

And with all that being said, let's meet this week's guest, L.A.-based state and federal criminal law attorney Lou Shapiro. Marjorie caught up with Lou late last night after he'd had another full day in court. And here they are.

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639.771 - 648.657 Marjorie Hernandez

Well, welcome back to The Trial of Diddy. And today we have attorney and legal analyst Lou Shapiro. Thanks so much, Lou, for coming back to our show.

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648.678 - 650.519 Lou Shapiro

My pleasure. Good to be with you again.

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650.942 - 655.645 Marjorie Hernandez

Yes. And can you kindly tell us first your background in federal criminal courts?

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656.226 - 669.615 Lou Shapiro

Yeah, sure. I'm a criminal defense attorney, formerly worked for the government Los Angeles County Public Defender's Office. Since then, I've started my own criminal law practice 10 plus years ago where I do state and federal criminal defense.

670.117 - 697.005 Marjorie Hernandez

He has a lot of experience with analyzing a lot of these big cases. So very fortunate to have you on the show. Now, Lou, a lot has happened since we last spoke. Diddy is now in a federal lockup since, gosh, September 16th. He has remained there for, gosh, despite several attempts to be released on bail. And now actually it looks like the May 5th court date will be pushed back by a week.

697.645 - 704.091 Marjorie Hernandez

The trial looks like it's going to start now on May 12th. Now, do you anticipate that it will actually move forward on May 12th?

704.412 - 718.986 Lou Shapiro

Yeah, it seems like the judge is trying to keep the trial timeline on a shorter leash now. The final pieces of discovery and names of the alleged victims are being provided. So we are definitely nearing the finish line in terms of the pretrial phase.

Chapter 4: What is the significance of the upcoming trial date?

719.827 - 741.341 Marjorie Hernandez

And just today, as you mentioned, the federal prosecutors were told to hand over the names of those three alleged victims who are, again, connected to the federal criminal indictment. And the judge's order said their identities were disclosed to Diddy's attorneys, quote, under attorney's eyes only designation. Can you explain what that means?

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741.441 - 746.325 Marjorie Hernandez

Since Diddy's own attorneys had previously referred to Cassie as victim one.

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746.345 - 763.759 Lou Shapiro

Right. So when it comes to victims, of sexual abuse or domestic violence, the courts tried to make all efforts to protect those names, keep them confidential to prevent further harassment or embarrassment and so forth.

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764.099 - 775.884 Lou Shapiro

So that's why the judge said to the attorneys, you can have this information, you can do what you want with it in terms of investigating their backgrounds, their statements and so forth. You just can't release that information to the general public.

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776.138 - 790.005 Marjorie Hernandez

But the fact was, I think Diddy's attorneys actually also said that the other victims were possible former girlfriends. Would that affect the case in terms of what will be discussed moving forward now that these names are sealed for now?

790.365 - 801.35 Lou Shapiro

So even if they were previously disclosed by counsel, because the judge made an order from here on moving forward, they won't be able to say the names of those individuals out loud, even if it's obvious.

801.73 - 814.219 Marjorie Hernandez

Now, how about witnesses in the case? There hasn't been a release of any witness lists as far as we've heard, but could that be made available or made public anytime soon?

814.399 - 832.479 Lou Shapiro

Yes, typically witness lists are provided shortly before trial. People at both sides are making last minute changes to who they're going to be calling or not. And in that sense, they're provided to the court And I don't see why the judge wouldn't allow those witness names to be at least provided to the public.

832.499 - 845.685 Lou Shapiro

I think the judge is going to be conducting a balancing test because there is the right of the public also to the press to understand the court system and right of information. So he'll be balancing that or she'll be balancing that.

Chapter 5: How did Kanye West get involved in this situation?

857.819 - 884.702 Lou Shapiro

Well, it also depends on who's willing to cooperate with the government in this case. I don't expect a lot of witnesses on Diddy's side. I expect a longer witness list on the prosecution side. But again, They probably would want to call some A-listers, but A-listers probably want to stay as far away as they can from a proceeding like this. So it's not to be associated with Didi in any way.

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885.542 - 901.73 Marjorie Hernandez

You talked a little bit about the gag order. So how will that work? Will the public not learn the names of the folks in the witnesses until trial starts? Or will that be released earlier? Like we're now in the pretrial motion phase, right?

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902.85 - 922.872 Lou Shapiro

Right. It depends. how comprehensive the judge wants to make that order. He could tell everybody in the room, whoever is in the trial, that they're not allowed to release any information about the witnesses or the victims in the case. We have to see how the judge plays that. We don't know yet.

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923.993 - 928.955 Marjorie Hernandez

Now, can the judge actually close the court when victims one, two, and three testify?

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930.175 - 937.527 Lou Shapiro

Yes, the judge can order that everybody else except for the parties involved, exit the courtroom and have that part of the proceedings closed.

938.387 - 938.727 Marjorie Hernandez

Oh, wow.

939.187 - 949.209 Lou Shapiro

Does that happen often? Yeah, it does happen, especially when it's requested by the victims. It's certainly something that is common, yes.

950.51 - 957.711 Marjorie Hernandez

So then the witness's testimony will not be public or the transcript would be sealed? Is that what will happen or what could happen?

Chapter 6: Who is Lou Shapiro and what insights does he provide?

958.931 - 961.432 Lou Shapiro

So the testimony would be public, just their names would not be.

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962.322 - 974.748 Marjorie Hernandez

So the transcripts of the testimony would be public, but their names will be kept out. I know like the Weinstein case, it was an open court and they did testify in person. I guess some of their names were not made public, right?

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975.028 - 991.865 Lou Shapiro

Right, because some wanted, I think, send a message to the public and stand for what they were testifying about and wanted to be reached out because they have a story to tell and they wanted to tell it. But others wanted to remain under the radar. So it's a personal decision made by the accusers.

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992.245 - 994.647 Kayla Brantley

There's more coming up, but for now, let's pause for a break.

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996.729 - 1008.701 David Patrick Caracos (Promo Speaker)

If you like this episode, we think you'll love this.

1009.958 - 1026.589 David Patrick Caracos (Promo Speaker)

I'm David Patrick-Aricos, and on this week's episode of Apocalypse Now, as Donald Trump heads to Doha, we discuss Qatar, a small state at the center of a world increasingly ridden with faction and conflict. Listen to Apocalypse Now wherever you get your podcasts.

1038.493 - 1041.996 Kayla Brantley

Welcome back to The Trial of Diddy. We're still here with attorney Lou Shapiro.

1042.316 - 1056.828 Marjorie Hernandez

Now, there was some discussion at Diddy's hearing last week that the jury might possibly be sequestered or that there might be some indication that could be a possibility. Do you think this will actually happen in this case?

1057.368 - 1077.427 Lou Shapiro

No, I don't think they're going to be sequestered like in the OJ case where they're taken to hotels and being given food and no access to television and so forth because back then, You could actually have a chance at sequestering a jury, meaning cutting them off from the media and so forth, so it won't influence their decision-making in the trial.

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