Louis Ziskin

Right.

And and the ideas that I might have.

So that's also is information.

You know what other people are doing and how other people are doing that.

Right.

You know, and then 27, I end up in the business.

But if these things hadn't happened in my early 20s and hadn't straightened me out to where my word had to mean something, then I probably would have been dead as the end result of my foray into drug trafficking rather than into prison.

And, you know, I mean, if those things hadn't have changed by that point, I mean, you can't when it's one thing you're selling a gram on the street corner and you lie and there's only eight tenths of a gram in there.

Right.

It's another thing when you're international drug trafficking doing real million dollar dope deals.

Yeah.

and you're lying you're expected to hold up your end of the business and if there's a problem you've got to be the first one to let everybody else know and you certainly don't color it in any way shape or form it's just the facts otherwise you got a huge problem so when i look back on all that and then the lead up into getting into the drug business i find that fascinating because

All I have is myself to judge it against, but self-realization has been a central key throughout my life and the different evolutions that I've been through.

Okay.

Yes, so there was this...

cousin and two cousins that i knew through a friend of mine and they were like hey i want to your two cousins no no just they were they were they were two cousins and they were like uh they were mewling body carrying you know five ten thousand pills from where from amsterdam they were going to amsterdam and they were doing it for somebody is it legal in amsterdam

Or they were just somebody was manufacturing out there.

You know, that's the funny thing about everybody thought.

And I thought, too, that they manufacture the shit in Amsterdam and Belgium and all these things.

What?