Louise Erie

Yeah, because we are in the phase of just getting on with things.

That's what we do.

And healthy.

What you're describing is really interesting because I also think that if that is overwhelming and then you're overwhelmed with anxiety and depression and your cortisol levels and things go up, then that has real health impacts on people.

Look, as I say, I'm not a scientist, but I do believe genuinely.

Look, I really think it is that to me, you describing that, what is actually literally going on scientifically has been useful because if there's someone listening who's going, oh, I thought I was just perimenopause, maybe it's actually more than that.

Maybe they're having an aha moment because

Like you say, that sort of collision is going to have an impact in your life and everyone in it.

I ride in an electric moped and it has completely taken that out of the equation for me.

I will warn you about the electric car.

I absolutely cannot stand having to use a public...

electric, you know, we went on a big road trip, we had to stop a lot.

And watching people at petrol stations stop and get their petrol and drive off while we were sitting there for half an hour.

Do it at home.

Do it at home.

We'll work on this one.

Look, I'm not knocking it.

It must not be very nice, but PMS is snowboarding right in the park either.

And honestly, for crying out loud, right?

I mean, we've talked to Stacey Sims a couple of times in this podcast about the exercise research in men.