Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer

It's both. It could be both.

It's both. It could be both.

It's not mutually exclusive. It could be both. It could be true, a clue.

It's not mutually exclusive. It could be both. It could be true, a clue.

Don Rumsfeld said that.

Don Rumsfeld said that.

So let me add something to that comment. But that wasn't a Gilmore Commission. Those are two separate things.

So let me add something to that comment. But that wasn't a Gilmore Commission. Those are two separate things.

January of 2001, the options for us to go after al-Qaeda is briefed to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Hugh Shelton. That is to say, the culmination of our work is briefed to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. We are directed to stand down in January, right as Bush, the Bush team comes in. When Bush comes in, the Able Danger Project is stood down.

January of 2001, the options for us to go after al-Qaeda is briefed to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Hugh Shelton. That is to say, the culmination of our work is briefed to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. We are directed to stand down in January, right as Bush, the Bush team comes in. When Bush comes in, the Able Danger Project is stood down.

Let me ask you a question before I give you the five things. Why would you stand down a cutting-edge black special operations unit in January of 2001, right before you know there are threats from that very target located within the United States? Why would you do that? Who is you? The inbound Bush administration, Bush 43. Why would the Bush administration...

Let me ask you a question before I give you the five things. Why would you stand down a cutting-edge black special operations unit in January of 2001, right before you know there are threats from that very target located within the United States? Why would you do that? Who is you? The inbound Bush administration, Bush 43. Why would the Bush administration...

In January of 2001, as they're coming into office, stop, because there's evidence, because of the, basically, what, I'll answer your question, but I want to make sure we get this into the conversation. When, what's his name, went to the National Archives and took stuff out in his socks,

In January of 2001, as they're coming into office, stop, because there's evidence, because of the, basically, what, I'll answer your question, but I want to make sure we get this into the conversation. When, what's his name, went to the National Archives and took stuff out in his socks,

When Sandy Berger went into the National Archives, he stole a bunch of things, put it in his underwear and his socks.

When Sandy Berger went into the National Archives, he stole a bunch of things, put it in his underwear and his socks.

He stole five documents. One of those documents was regarding the existence of Able Danger.

He stole five documents. One of those documents was regarding the existence of Able Danger.

I don't believe that.

I don't believe that.