Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer

Are those the charts? Those are some of the charts, yes.

Are those the charts? Those are some of the charts, yes.

By the way, he was one of the individuals that the IG, the DODIG, refused to interview. You're a guy that has to make investments. If you have someone who is a principal actor in a company... who has a major role, wouldn't you go and interview them before anything else to figure out what's going on? Lambert was the chief of operations, and they refused.

By the way, he was one of the individuals that the IG, the DODIG, refused to interview. You're a guy that has to make investments. If you have someone who is a principal actor in a company... who has a major role, wouldn't you go and interview them before anything else to figure out what's going on? Lambert was the chief of operations, and they refused.

They DODIG during the time that he asked them to investigate our claims. They refused to talk to Lambert. The whole thing's a cover. To this day.

They DODIG during the time that he asked them to investigate our claims. They refused to talk to Lambert. The whole thing's a cover. To this day.

We knew where the cells were at. Right. We knew where they physically were hanging out. And where were those cells? There were different clusters. One was New York, one was Maryland, and the other one was Florida, as I recall. And they were all clustered. We had individuals linked to the al-Qaeda leadership.

We knew where the cells were at. Right. We knew where they physically were hanging out. And where were those cells? There were different clusters. One was New York, one was Maryland, and the other one was Florida, as I recall. And they were all clustered. We had individuals linked to the al-Qaeda leadership.

New Jersey. New Jersey. New Jersey. New York.

New Jersey. New Jersey. New Jersey. New York.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let me add something to the picture that I can't talk about in detail yet. There's three things I'm trying to get declassified by the Pentagon right now. My specific role in Able Danger relating to what we're talking about. I still can't talk about it, believe it or not.

Let me add something to the picture that I can't talk about in detail yet. There's three things I'm trying to get declassified by the Pentagon right now. My specific role in Able Danger relating to what we're talking about. I still can't talk about it, believe it or not.

The other thing is there's an investigative organization that's run by DOD that has found the link you're talking about here to the CIA guys. And I'll let them speak for themselves. But they're working right now to get approval to come public on what they have. And I've talked to their senior investigator, and he has said they have confirmed the link between Al-Madar has whatever his name is.

The other thing is there's an investigative organization that's run by DOD that has found the link you're talking about here to the CIA guys. And I'll let them speak for themselves. But they're working right now to get approval to come public on what they have. And I've talked to their senior investigator, and he has said they have confirmed the link between Al-Madar has whatever his name is.

I'm terrible with names. to the CIA.

I'm terrible with names. to the CIA.

I think it's a clue. I think it's a clue. These people don't do this stuff without a reason.

I think it's a clue. I think it's a clue. These people don't do this stuff without a reason.