Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling

The question is going to be, there truthfully is, as Rundfeld once said, an old Europe and a new Europe. And the new Europe has experienced the threat of Putin during the Cold War. The old Europe is kind of good in their economic standards and they're feeling good about themselves. The question is, can those 32 countries of Europe fight?

Thirty one, if you discount the United States, pull together under one real main body. And if Poland gets attacked or let's put it in a different way. I'm sure Michael Weitz is concerned about this because he's got a lot of friends in the Baltics. If Estonia gets attacked or Lithuania gets attacked.

Thirty one, if you discount the United States, pull together under one real main body. And if Poland gets attacked or let's put it in a different way. I'm sure Michael Weitz is concerned about this because he's got a lot of friends in the Baltics. If Estonia gets attacked or Lithuania gets attacked.

Thirty one, if you discount the United States, pull together under one real main body. And if Poland gets attacked or let's put it in a different way. I'm sure Michael Weitz is concerned about this because he's got a lot of friends in the Baltics. If Estonia gets attacked or Lithuania gets attacked.

Is Brussels and is Poland, well, Poland will, but will Spain, will Norway, will they come to their aid? That's the big question. Will Article 5 drive these 31 other countries to pull together and defend against Russia that, quite frankly, is a third of the size of the Californian GDP and their military is three quarters of what it used to be or one quarter of what it used to be? So I don't know.

Is Brussels and is Poland, well, Poland will, but will Spain, will Norway, will they come to their aid? That's the big question. Will Article 5 drive these 31 other countries to pull together and defend against Russia that, quite frankly, is a third of the size of the Californian GDP and their military is three quarters of what it used to be or one quarter of what it used to be? So I don't know.

Is Brussels and is Poland, well, Poland will, but will Spain, will Norway, will they come to their aid? That's the big question. Will Article 5 drive these 31 other countries to pull together and defend against Russia that, quite frankly, is a third of the size of the Californian GDP and their military is three quarters of what it used to be or one quarter of what it used to be? So I don't know.

I can't tell you.

I can't tell you.

I can't tell you.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, but we made that mistake when we said, well, Russia's got the equipment.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, but we made that mistake when we said, well, Russia's got the equipment.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, but we made that mistake when we said, well, Russia's got the equipment.

The key is, do they have the will to come together and fight? And we found out in Russia is no, they did not.

The key is, do they have the will to come together and fight? And we found out in Russia is no, they did not.

The key is, do they have the will to come together and fight? And we found out in Russia is no, they did not.

Yeah, it doesn't take much.