Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling
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The Bulwark Daily · S2 Ep1016: Jonathan Cohn and Mark Lilla: Lobotomizing America · 8 Apr 2025
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Well, I guess relevant to this podcast, I got involved in intellectual politics when I became an editor of the public interest back in 1980 and worked for Irving Kristol and ended up going back to Harvard to get my PhD and worked very closely with Daniel Bell and Knack Laser and New Pat Moynihan.
And so I was part of that whole world and then found myself drifting away from it in the 1990s as the neocon world changed, became more populist. And since then, I've been, you know, I feel like I'm the last Mohican of the Moynihan tradition among my peers. I guess me and Leon Wieseltier. Well, maybe Bill's kind of returned back to you.
Prodigal son is back, right? With a big car and tail fins. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I got my PhD. I'm now a professor at Columbia. I've been at Chicago, been at NYU. And my main place to write has been the New York Review of Books, though now I'm also writing regularly for Liberties, quite happily. Yeah.
If your listeners don't know what Liberties is, it's an extraordinary quarterly edited by Leon Wieseltier that is as close to you. You can come to the partisan review for our time. And so I find myself in this position of being the kind of centrist realist who annoys progressives. And I still have relations with people on the conservative side.
And I write about what's going on in the right, mainly with a broken heart. My books, I have been, I've mainly been, I guess you might say, studying the dark side of the street. My interests have been in the counter-enlightenment, in the radical right, and I have a couple of Thank you. Thank you.
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What we want to do is move into the future, but inspired by the past so that we get a new muscular future that's inspired by the way America used to be. But it's going to be not bucolic. But rather, it's going to be muscular and strong and authoritative and all the rest.
In both of those positions, the nostalgia for the past and the idea of leaping to the future are deeply anti-liberal and deeply anti-conservative.
Yeah, somehow an aquarium has been turned into fish soup and we have to figure out how to turn it back into an aquarium, right? Well, it's been interesting. I mean, if we talk about personalities, what happened to Rod Dreher or what happened to Patrick Deneen, they began speaking like the genuine conservatives, Rod more in a kind of
Blakey and romantic view of the past where with Patrick, it was more old small town America. It was very attractive. His first book was really good. I mean, his first political book. And then something happens and Trump coming on the scene and Orban coming on the scene. somehow flipped a switch in the minds of certain people. Now, there are still some people on the right of the old style.
I think of Yuval Levin, and I'm sure there are other people at AEI that you can come up with. But this toxin has entered the bloodstream.
As far as comes to power. That's right. That voice just just gets killed. And so I spent a week. I was invited to teach in the summer school at the University of Austin in Texas two summers ago. And it was weirdly schizophrenic. So they have these courses that are called like forbidden courses.
However, the president of it, Pano, I forget his last name, a Greek name, he was the former president of St. John's. And so when he came on, the vibe that was given off of it is that actually we're going to be kind of St. John's University with students who may have these right wing politics, but they simply want to get away from a liberal environment. But we'll do what St. John's did.
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