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Luca Ferrari

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

So first criterion is scale.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

And again, at the time, 10K looked like a big bet.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

How do we feel like?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

Today, we're actually hoping to invest easily a billion plus, but conceptually the same thing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

The second thing is we need to be able to predict the future performance of that business.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

Otherwise,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

There's no way we can make a confident investment.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

We've gotten very sophisticated in times with statistical models and lots of assumptions and probability distributions.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

But at the essence of it, we need to buy stuff where we know where it's going, at least with sufficient confidence.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

And the last one is we need to believe we can make meaningful, substantial improvements to that business.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

Not that it's necessity, but it's difficult for us to imagine being able to make an offer that's super exciting for the seller.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

and then being, okay, this is perfect, buy.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

Probably they wouldn't sell it to us for that price.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

These are the criteria and they have remained the same, but the level of sophistication, our understanding of these criteria over time, it's incomparable.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

I mentioned earlier at the beginning, it was all what we would call asset deals, individual apps and whatnot.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

And then we had a period of maybe three, four years where we saw that very basic, small scale model work was going to saturate at some point in the not too distant future.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

And we figured we should do this at a bigger scale with structured companies, with management teams and large teams of professionals and institutional investors.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

But will we be able to do as well or at least enough there?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

And we were quite, I think we lacked confidence to take the leap immediately.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

And so we started losing a bit of focus and looking at alternative strategies while taking tentative baby steps into that next level of the same thing, really.