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Luca Ferrari

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

We as humans have been, evolution has made us animals of gut, of emotion, but emotion investing, they're not good friends, I think, or at least good investing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

I don't know if this will disappoint you.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

But we don't.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

Everybody is paid a fixed salary, no variable pay, no stock grants, nothing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

They can choose to invest part of their cash pay at a discount, not a crazy, but a pretty generous discount at the top call level.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

And that's it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

The way we maximize alignment of effort is by hiring people who believe are high integrity, that have great professional pride, and then just treating them with the utmost respect.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

And I think most people will try to do what's right and do what's right for the business along the lines of the mandate you gave them.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

So if ultimately you're optimizing for bending spoons, not Evernote, nine out of 10 people, if you're hired well and the culture is right, will take it to heart and do that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

In fact, I believe sometimes setting financial incentives, of course, if people do well, they're likely to get more responsibility, higher salaries.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

Certainly there's that, but it's not as

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

immediately tied to a result next quarter or something very measurable.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

It's through observation in time.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

If you're great at your job, you'll probably get more, do more.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

I think that sometimes when you set typical incentive plans with KPIs and whatnot, first of all, it's very costly.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

It takes a lot of time.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

For that to be ROI positive, it's not enough that it adds value.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

You need to add more value than the cost that's implied.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

It's absolutely guaranteed to create at least some perverse incentives because nobody can set perfect incentives.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]

The world is too complicated.