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Lucas Swisher

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
675 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

More capital does give you an advantage.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

There are some cases where historically it's given you a disadvantage.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

If you have so much capital and not a lot of product market fit, I'd say you probably had a disadvantage.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

If you have a lot of capital and insane product market fit that allows you to go hire a huge sales force,

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

That's a huge advantage, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

Like if you're actively taking a market and you have way more capital, a better, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

Like it's this is like almost tautological.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

That is a huge advantage.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

But do I think that there's this concept of, well, if Kotu and Sequoia and Kleiner all pile into a company that it's over,

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

I think there are segments of the market where it feels like that is that feels like a little bit of a problem.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

I think for these companies and again, I'll just focus on what we do right for the companies that are explosively growing at the growth stage and have real product market fit, real product, real traction.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

I don't think so, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

You look at these companies that raise really rapid rounds in succession at the growth stage that actually have something underneath.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

No, because there's real ROIC on the capital that's being invested, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

There's real ROI for the dollars that are going into these businesses.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

Sometimes I think when growth funds in particular chase venture companies, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

We've talked about that delineation point.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

That's where I think it can get quite dangerous.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

It can make companies complacent.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

It can make companies spend too much on things that maybe it's not great.