Lucinda Creighton

I think we'll see more comment from Leo.

I think it's like it is.

It is unusual to have an ex Taoiseach, a former Taoiseach in his, I said, mid or late 40s.

Late 40s.

But it is unusual.

So, I mean, he has a whole career ahead of him.

Well, as a former Taoiseach, you're never, ever going to shed your association with your party.

And I'm sure for ministers in government and probably the party leader, you know, they're probably not overly enthused by Leo's interventions.

But I'm not sure that Leo will stop intervening because he has something to say.

And I think he's going to continue.

Yeah, well, I mean, this is this is not new.

So, I mean, it still amazes me as somebody, you know, who was a part of the government well over a decade ago now that the two largest parties in the state since the foundation of the state have a combined level of support, 32 percent.

It's unbelievable.

And that is not a story about protests last week or last month.

This is going on now.

It's a it's a decline that really began or accelerated during the financial crisis.

And it has just it has turbocharged.

And so there isn't there aren't huge shifts in the percentage support going from the government to particular parties.

It's more a fragmentation.

It's fragmentation and the party is pretty much flatlining.