Lucinda Holdforth

That's not to say it isn't fantastic seeing how many of us as we age are living well, looking after our health, feeling happy.

And that, you know, that health span may well increase over time.

But at the same time, I think, you know, when I look at Nana, she lived, she saw life and death.

She was on a property and it wasn't something to be afraid of or defeated.

Or ignored.

Oh, she looked plump and round and rosy-cheeked.

She always had a swipe of pink lipstick on.

Scotch was the first drink she offered anyone when they came in the house.

She was, you know, she was... And she was the true grandmother with hordes of children and grandchildren, that loving matriarchal figure.

So she embraced that period of her life.

And, you know, we all, when the cousins all get together, that's what we talk about.

I really see that pressure because for many of us, retirement is not something that we can afford.

So we're going to live 30 years longer, 20, 30 years longer.

And for many of us, here we are, we're facing the AI revolution and God only knows what else.

So we're worried about our income into old age, and we want to work, we need to work,

And the workplace and the culture requires women especially, but also men, I think, as well.

There's a great burden to look young, whatever young means.

I think it means 35.

So I do see people suffering quietly, trying to look the part, trying to act the role.

Well, I don't think... I think once people do retire and they've got, you know, they've got their income and they're secure, that's... You see the restfulness come over people.